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I also agree, but the references were Molucelo's comments and I was trying to draw attention to the distinction that W8JI may have been referring to. Again IMO, sometimes Tom produces a hard read, and is sorely short on details and that makes us either think or guess. In the Cebik article that Bob recently presented entitled "A Common-Mode Current Picture Show" I think Cebik's conclusions about our trying almost in vain to determine what the real coax lenght in a system really is in order to fix the problem with CMC...says it all. And in the boot, Cebik suggests that we not worry about all the details in his 18 page report, but instead use a simple CMC attentuator to solve the problem. Did you get that in reading that report? The details may not be BS, but it is close or might as well be...considering his final conclusions.

I disagree that he is repudiating the antenna design, I think he tells us the antenna design does present problems, and that an optimum installation or no, can mean the difference in successful use or not. He also talks about how futual it is to try and fully metigate the problem using the proper combination of feed line length and suggests using a choke in such cases. I can't prove my point, but I ask folks to consider the Gain Master which has similar problems, if not worse. Does this mean the GM is in the same category as some claim about the Imax?

This reminds me of the old argument: "...is the glass half full or half empty?"

Homer, I don't disagree that Tom and Mr. Cebik are right in their remarks here, but sometimes I argue that they may be misunderstood on some issues and I always leave open the possibility that I can be wrong also.

<blockquote data-quote="Marconi" data-source="post: 281749" data-attributes="member: 903">I also agree, but the references were Molucelo&#039;s comments and I was trying to draw attention to the distinction that W8JI may have been referring to. Again IMO, sometimes Tom produces a hard read, and is sorely short on details and that makes us either think or guess. In the Cebik article that Bob recently presented entitled &quot;A Common-Mode Current Picture Show&quot; I think Cebik&#039;s conclusions about our trying almost in vain to determine what the real coax lenght in a system really is in order to fix the problem with CMC...says it all. And in the boot, Cebik suggests that we not worry about all the details in his 18 page report, but instead use a simple CMC attentuator to solve the problem. Did you get that in reading that report? The details may not be BS, but it is close or might as well be...considering his final conclusions. &nbsp;&nbsp;I disagree that he is repudiating the antenna design, I think he tells us the antenna design does present problems, and that an optimum installation or no, can mean the difference in successful use or not. He also talks about how futual it is to try and fully metigate the problem using the proper combination of feed line length and suggests using a choke in such cases. I can&#039;t prove my point, but I ask folks to consider the Gain Master which has similar problems, if not worse. Does this mean the GM is in the same category as some claim about the Imax? &nbsp;This reminds me of the old argument: &quot;...is the glass half full or half empty?&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp;Homer, I don&#039;t disagree that Tom and Mr. Cebik are right in their remarks here, but sometimes I argue that they may be misunderstood on some issues and I always leave open the possibility that I can be wrong also.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Marconi, post: 281749, member: 903"] I also agree, but the references were Molucelo's comments and I was trying to draw attention to the distinction that W8JI may have been referring to. Again IMO, sometimes Tom produces a hard read, and is sorely short on details and that makes us either think or guess. In the Cebik article that Bob recently presented entitled "A Common-Mode Current Picture Show" I think Cebik's conclusions about our trying almost in vain to determine what the real coax lenght in a system really is in order to fix the problem with CMC...says it all. And in the boot, Cebik suggests that we not worry about all the details in his 18 page report, but instead use a simple CMC attentuator to solve the problem. Did you get that in reading that report? The details may not be BS, but it is close or might as well be...considering his final conclusions. I disagree that he is repudiating the antenna design, I think he tells us the antenna design does present problems, and that an optimum installation or no, can mean the difference in successful use or not. He also talks about how futual it is to try and fully metigate the problem using the proper combination of feed line length and suggests using a choke in such cases. I can't prove my point, but I ask folks to consider the Gain Master which has similar problems, if not worse. Does this mean the GM is in the same category as some claim about the Imax? This reminds me of the old argument: "...is the glass half full or half empty?" Homer, I don't disagree that Tom and Mr. Cebik are right in their remarks here, but sometimes I argue that they may be misunderstood on some issues and I always leave open the possibility that I can be wrong also. [/QUOTE]

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