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1iwilly

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ok hope this makes sence when tunning a radio do you tune out for max dead key then back it down to the desire drive level to be use. or do you lower the dead key to where you run the radio then while say audio or using a 1000hz tone tune it formax foward swing.????
 

I always run my radio wide open with the highest dead key possible. When smoke starts then I back it down....maybe.
 
it really depends on if clean modulation and only transmitting on one channel at a time is important to you , or rather how important it is . my opinion is since even doubling power has a trivial effect on talking distance why put the thing for every watt it can do when it will only result in a dirty bleeding signal and shorter transistor due to heat from being run so hard . most of the newer radios from uniden , galaxy , texas ranger etc. can do 20+ watts modulated . id just keep it under 20 watts pep and try to get the deadkey close to %25 of the clean pep power . you will most likely need a lower deadkey if youre driving a amp though .
what radio are you using ? whats the rest of your system ?
 
it really depends on if clean modulation and only transmitting on one channel at a time is important to you , or rather how important it is . my opinion is since even doubling power has a trivial effect on talking distance why put the thing for every watt it can do when it will only result in a dirty bleeding signal and shorter transistor due to heat from being run so hard . most of the newer radios from uniden , galaxy , texas ranger etc. can do 20+ watts modulated . id just keep it under 20 watts pep and try to get the deadkey close to %25 of the clean pep power . you will most likely need a lower deadkey if youre driving a amp though .
what radio are you using ? whats the rest of your system ?

Booty speaks the truth that none of the "swingers" like to hear. If the modulated carrier (swing) does more than double the carrier...it's distortion.
 
DK @ 1/4 of PEP level at 100% modulation.

Make sure to keep within the limits of your final(s). Excessive drive may shorten transistor/tube life, and may cause problems with spectral purity.

Clean signal into the amp, clean signal out. :D
 
Booty speaks the truth that none of the "swingers" like to hear. If the modulated carrier (swing) does more than double the carrier...it's distortion.

Double the carrier? I thought distortion had more to do with clipping either positive or negative peaks than any strict "rule of thumb" carrier/modulated carrier ratio.
 
Just like the article explains, put the radio on a scope, look at the waveform,

Can not argue with the test equipment, useless to try to explain to the swinger crowd. They have been listening to so much distorted audio that it sounds normal to them.
 
Whatever, lol, doubling the carrier is only 50% modulation. That's alot of heat just to achieve that "pinched" audio.

Also remember, doubling the carrier on a scope is not the same as doubling the carrier on a watt meter.
 
Whatever, lol, doubling the carrier is only 50% modulation. That's alot of heat just to achieve that "pinched" audio.

Also remember, doubling the carrier on a scope is not the same as doubling the carrier on a watt meter.

That is correct as the scope is way more accurate than a watt meter.
 

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