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if we don't hear them we cant talk with them , that's for sure

hey NB , what metal 5/8 did you compare to the imax ? did you ever get a chance to use the metal 5/8 at the same height as the imax was ? and if so how did it perform then ?

i've been curious lately why no one has ever made (that i know of) a 5/8 vertical using a aluminum tube for a vertical rather than the wire in a F/G tube , but still using the adjustable matching system that the imax and antron 99 use .

many folks use the F/G supported antennas and are happy with them . but going by what's written by the folks that have had the chance to use them and a traditional 5/8 with 1/4w ground elements in the same location the traditional antenna more often get's better flowers . neither of my home-brewed 5/8 did well without ground elements , the one i did with eight 1/8 wave elements did better , but the ones with 1/4 w/l ground elements did best by far for me . they were all home-made antennas , so i certainly could have made a mistake elsewhere that effected their performance .

i'm definately a believer that a elevated ground-plane at the feed-point of a elevated end-fed antenna makes for a better performing antenna .

some might say to "slope those ground elements upward to make them earn their living"

<blockquote data-quote="BOOTY MONSTER" data-source="post: 366883">if we don&#039;t hear them we cant talk with them , that&#039;s for sure <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />hey NB , what metal 5/8 did you compare to the imax ? did you ever get a chance to use the metal 5/8 at the same height as the imax was ? and if so how did it perform then ? i&#039;ve been curious lately why no one has ever made (that i know of) a 5/8 vertical using a aluminum tube for a vertical rather than the wire in a F/G tube , but still using the adjustable matching system that the imax and antron 99 use .many folks use the F/G supported antennas and are happy with them . but going by what&#039;s written by the folks that have had the chance to use them and a traditional 5/8 with 1/4w ground elements in the same location the traditional antenna more often get&#039;s better flowers . neither of my home-brewed 5/8 did well without ground elements , the one i did with eight 1/8 wave elements did better , but the ones with 1/4 w/l ground elements did best by far for me . they were all home-made antennas , so i certainly could have made a mistake elsewhere that effected their performance . i&#039;m definately a believer that a elevated ground-plane at the feed-point of a elevated end-fed antenna makes for a better performing antenna . <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f606.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":lol:" title="Laugh&nbsp; &nbsp; :lol:"&nbsp; data-smilie="19"data-shortname=":lol:" /> some might say to &quot;slope those ground elements upward to make them earn their living&quot; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f606.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":lol:" title="Laugh&nbsp; &nbsp; :lol:"&nbsp; data-smilie="19"data-shortname=":lol:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="BOOTY MONSTER, post: 366883"] if we don't hear them we cant talk with them , that's for sure ;) hey NB , what metal 5/8 did you compare to the imax ? did you ever get a chance to use the metal 5/8 at the same height as the imax was ? and if so how did it perform then ? i've been curious lately why no one has ever made (that i know of) a 5/8 vertical using a aluminum tube for a vertical rather than the wire in a F/G tube , but still using the adjustable matching system that the imax and antron 99 use . many folks use the F/G supported antennas and are happy with them . but going by what's written by the folks that have had the chance to use them and a traditional 5/8 with 1/4w ground elements in the same location the traditional antenna more often get's better flowers . neither of my home-brewed 5/8 did well without ground elements , the one i did with eight 1/8 wave elements did better , but the ones with 1/4 w/l ground elements did best by far for me . they were all home-made antennas , so i certainly could have made a mistake elsewhere that effected their performance . i'm definately a believer that a elevated ground-plane at the feed-point of a elevated end-fed antenna makes for a better performing antenna . :lol: some might say to "slope those ground elements upward to make them earn their living" :lol: [/QUOTE]

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