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Another new CB'er

central205

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New user confused and kind of bummed out. I am new to CB and am having some problems, also on limited budget, can’t just keep throwing money away. Any help would be appreciated.
This all started when I got dad’s old race scanner programmed to listen to local broadcast. I found a list on the internet. The usual police, fire, school buses etc. Mostly maintenance guys and gals from the Frito Lay plant. Ok for a while but…
So what about a CB? That might be cool.
Next step Ebay  I found a CB I liked, and bid on it, got outbid at the last second of course. Did it again and won one. I liked the scanning thing so chose the Cobra 18 WX ST II. Bad choice maybe I know now. Anyway, I did all this get ready for CB stuff like also buying soldering iron, heat shrink tubing, tape etc. Knowing I would need antenna I picked up a cheap one at Meijer for $15, the magnetic kind. Let’s rock.
Wait for the mail. Hooked up the CB and antenna with a cobbled up cigarette lighter thing I made so I could move the CB into the house when I was ready. The only thing that I could get was the weather channels. Ended up sending the CB back, got my money back, but lost out on the return shipping. By this time a couple of weeks had already went by.
The wife says “Do you want to bid on another one?” no no no. I had been to the Flying J truck stop checking things out. I was pretty bummed out by now; this is a low budget thing you know. She was sweet and went to said truck stop and bought me a new one.
I have been reading this forum and other info on the internet so knew something about getting antenna tuned. I was told about a CB shop while checking out a local electronics store. Off we go about 60 miles north. We pull into this place which turned out to be an old construction type trailer with chicken wire over the windows. Big ass antenna up in the sky though. Couple of old beaters parked outside with busted windshields and CB antennas on them. I felt right at home because my windshield has a big crack in it too.
She went in for me (I am in wheelchair) and got someone to come out. She said pretty scary in there (ha). A nice young fella came out with this black box thing to fix me up. He looked at the antenna and said “Yeah it’s tunable” ha ha ha. He took the stinger in and cut some off to set the SWR, couple of try’s, ground off the burrs…
I ask about “peaking and tuning this radio?” can you do that, do I have to leave it? No’ I can do that in about ten minutes. What do you think about this CB? He gives a little grin. Ah Oh. I can do a little with it. He takes it inside for a while. So now I am out more money. Nice guy, don’t get me wrong, not unhappy with service.
Well now we should be good to go. Well, the wife has been so good about all this let’s head on north and take her to the casino. We get a few miles up the road; everybody is in a race, going 80 miles an hour. You know what’s next – clang - bang - boom. That cheap ass antenna is flipping all around the truck bed. Murphy’s Law huh. I pull over and she holds up the bent, broken POS. I call my new buddy at the CB shop, turn around and go back. For more money I get a Wilson Little Wil installed. He tucks it into the doorframe, tunes it again for nothing. Nice people.
At this point I should be good to go I would think. I can hear people good , just can’t talk to anybody from home. The interstate is only a few miles away, seems like I should be able to reach the truckers anyway. I can’t, I try and try “radio check” nothing. Might as well talk to the dog. I can and have had brief conversations when in bigger towns. “radio check” – “you’re checking” wow….
I guess I need a better antenna? Have an old chevy S10. Wilson 1000, 5000, K40, Big coil thing? Where to put it? Roof pretty hard to do for me. Hood mount, bed stake mount, bumper with a 102” whip? Maybe I Should get a Galaxy radio with SSB – yeah yeah yeah. And a new truck too.
Also I have this Dipole Antenna from Ebay (never learn). I want to bring the radio in the house, that’s where I spend most of the time. Very confused about coax. “Don’t buy radio shack cable” I don’t know where to put Dipole or even how. At best I’ll be able to throw it up in the trees. Maybe between a pole light and the house. “Just don’t look down honey” That’s gonna happen. RG8, LMR, RG8x there must be 6 or 8 kinds of coax.
Got outbid on a SWR/ RF meter too.
Hopefully it gets better, thanks for letting me vent.
Jack
 
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This radio thing is like a virus. Once you get bit hard enough it just spreads and it has you. I've been around Cb's for 20 years but only recently got bit hard. You definitely came to the right site for advice. What kind of radio did you get?

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First welcome to the forum.

Mobile and base are two different type set ups.

Height is good for a base set up. the higher your antenna is installed the further it will talk. 27mhz is line of sight per say.

If you have more specific questions just post them, many knowledgeable members here and good advice is given.
 
Welcome to the forum and the CB world. Ok let's go. Truck Stops are verrrryyy high on CB stuff(try to stay away from them). I would think you would enjoy a Cobra 29 LTD Classic with a peak and tune, echo, talkback, and a quality microphone. BUT since you said you're on a fixed budget. Your best bet is a Cobra 29 with a peak and tune. The Little Wil is a awesome antenna. I used to run one. I would try to get a buddy with a set of meters and see if you're modulating and what your radio is doing. If you don't feel comfortable about going back to that CB shop. Call the shop I use. I PROMISE you will be satisfied!!! He is outstanding at what he does. NEVER EVER done me wrong!!! He's good on the price too. He usually keeps used Cobra 29's on the shelf for about 40 bucks. Send me a PM (personal message) if you want the info on the CB shop. Back to the situation: Radio problems aren't fun. Trust me, I've been in that boat before. I know it's frustrating but it'll get better I promise. GOOD LUCK!
 
So how far should I be able to converse on AM in general? I realize weather, terrain, sunspots are a factor. I am in north central Indiana - flatlands, cornfields.
I am ok with my radio choice and antenna, maybe just no locals talking when I am in truck. Cobra 18 WX ST II tuned and peaked. Tech said he could probably get it up to 20 Watts. Little Wil tuned.
Why can I hear people from California, even Puerto Rico on chanel 5-6 so much? If they are on SSB why don't they stay there? Very loud and won't shut up.
I thought range on AM should be more than line of sight; like maybe 10-11 miles.
I want to hook up Dipole antenna next. Not sure now if this will improve anything much now? I would like to use RG8X, some say that's OK for dipole, others say not. Ebay "New USA made Gray 75 FT CB Ham Coax Radio Cable PL259 " for less than $40. Dipole was only $30. This fits my budget better than $1.50 ft. RG8 at local electronics store (plus ends). But will it work?
I think it is too soon to jump to SSB radio for me right now. I need to walk before I can run, just like anything else.
Thanks for all the reply's so far. I have been reading this forum a lot. The trouble with the internet is so much info to sort through.
:)
 
So how far should I be able to converse on AM in general? I realize weather, terrain, sunspots are a factor. I am in north central Indiana - flatlands, cornfields.
I am ok with my radio choice and antenna, maybe just no locals talking when I am in truck. Cobra 18 WX ST II tuned and peaked. Tech said he could probably get it up to 20 Watts. Little Wil tuned.
Why can I hear people from California, even Puerto Rico on chanel 5-6 so much? If they are on SSB why don't they stay there? Very loud and won't shut up.
I thought range on AM should be more than line of sight; like maybe 10-11 miles.
I want to hook up Dipole antenna next. Not sure now if this will improve anything much now? I would like to use RG8X, some say that's OK for dipole, others say not. Ebay "New USA made Gray 75 FT CB Ham Coax Radio Cable PL259 " for less than $40. Dipole was only $30. This fits my budget better than $1.50 ft. RG8 at local electronics store (plus ends). But will it work?
I think it is too soon to jump to SSB radio for me right now. I need to walk before I can run, just like anything else.
Thanks for all the reply's so far. I have been reading this forum a lot. The trouble with the internet is so much info to sort through.
:)


The people in Cali are talking skip. The people on CH 6 basically talk to their self. Alot of truck drivers leave their radios off these days due to garbage on the band. Remember the antenna is 90% of your station! I don't reccomend buying anything for a CB from radio shack.
 
So how far should I be able to converse on AM in general? I realize weather, terrain, sunspots are a factor. I am in north central Indiana - flatlands, cornfields.
I am ok with my radio choice and antenna, maybe just no locals talking when I am in truck. Cobra 18 WX ST II tuned and peaked. Tech said he could probably get it up to 20 Watts. Little Wil tuned.
Why can I hear people from California, even Puerto Rico on chanel 5-6 so much? If they are on SSB why don't they stay there? Very loud and won't shut up.
I thought range on AM should be more than line of sight; like maybe 10-11 miles.
I want to hook up Dipole antenna next. Not sure now if this will improve anything much now? I would like to use RG8X, some say that's OK for dipole, others say not. Ebay "New USA made Gray 75 FT CB Ham Coax Radio Cable PL259 " for less than $40. Dipole was only $30. This fits my budget better than $1.50 ft. RG8 at local electronics store (plus ends). But will it work?
I think it is too soon to jump to SSB radio for me right now. I need to walk before I can run, just like anything else.
Thanks for all the reply's so far. I have been reading this forum a lot. The trouble with the internet is so much info to sort through.
:)

Channel 6 is da bowl. There running serious linear power.

More than likely what you heard on there was propagation from the ionosphere carrying rf.....

You will not be overwhelmed operating SSB its easy.
Like I said a wilson 1000 magmoung and a dx959 is all you need to get going. There is a lot more money and modifications to your vehicle to get involved in a 102ss whip or bigger. Start out little. The lil wil is a junky antenna that is from a personal experience point.

Good luck the radio world can be fun just becareful what you read on the WWW.

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I guess I need a better antenna? Have an old chevy S10. Wilson 1000, 5000, K40, Big coil thing? Where to put it? Roof pretty hard to do for me. Hood mount, bed stake mount, bumper with a 102” whip? Maybe I Should get a Galaxy radio with SSB – yeah yeah yeah. And a new truck too.
Also I have this Dipole Antenna from Ebay (never learn). I want to bring the radio in the house, that’s where I spend most of the time. Very confused about coax. “Don’t buy radio shack cable” I don’t know where to put Dipole or even how. At best I’ll be able to throw it up in the trees. Maybe between a pole light and the house. “Just don’t look down honey” That’s gonna happen. RG8, LMR, RG8x there must be 6 or 8 kinds of coax.
Got outbid on a SWR/ RF meter too.
Hopefully it gets better, thanks for letting me vent.
Jack

Jack, w/o reading any of the other posts, this is my advice to you....

The antenna is the heart and soul of your radio
. Run the best one you can. The 2 ft ones you buy at Meijer and Wal mart are junk and should be avoided at all costs.

That Lil wil you have now is an "ok" antenna. It will pick up and transmit for a few miles. And that's it.

However a Wilson 1000 will be a step up. It will transmit and receive better than your Lil wil.

Want to go even better than the Wilson 1000? Go for a 102 whip. At 9 ft tall, it's guaranteed to be the best at hearing and transmitting. The biggest drawback is it's 9 ft tall.

I had a 102 whip on my S-10 once, and could transmit an easy 10 miles on a 4 watt radio, when skip was low. Once I even talked 14 miles on this same set up. No amps or anything. I even made sure my SWR's were less than 1.5:1.

The rule of thumb on antennas is "height is might". So yes putting the antenna up on the roof of the truck will be better than on the bed rails.

Also the more antenna you get in the air (to an extent) is better. For CB, a 9 ft whip is better than a 5 ft whip but anything bigger than a 9 ft whip for a 1/4 wave antenna is going to not be any good for CB, but it might be good for a lower frequency.

Also as for transmitting you want to make sure you have a low SWR. i like 1.5:1 but 2.0:1 is ok, just not as good as 1.5:1.

Next thing is coax...some coax allows signal losses. RG8X is "ok" for CB but I like LMR 240 UF. It's like the Cadillac of CB coax (in my opinion) and maybe a bit of an overkill but I like making sure ALL of my signal gets out to the antenna.

Once you have a good antenna mounted as high as you can, a low SWR and good coax, the radio is the last piece of the puzzle, and will be at it's peak.

Now you asked about dipoles....well for starters you want to get it as high as you can...and you want to suspend the ends with some rope or non conducting material....you also want to keep the dipole away from any metal. I have one ran for 10 meter use. I run it from a 2nd story roof down towards the bottom of the gutter.

Anymore questions, ask away...oh and here's a pic of how I had my 102 on my S-10 and also how I have my dipole ran.
 

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I got the Cobra 18 WX ST II. I liked the scanning feaure.

If your a big fan of scan check out a Ranger RCI 2950.
That isn't a easy to use rig for a new hobbiest but I have confidence you will do just fine.... make a list of radios you like with questions about each . I am sure someone here can point you in the right direction.

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I went to a local hamfest. A hamfest is basically what they call a radio swap meet. I picked up an old Midland 861 b for $5.00. My antenna is a ham radio antenna. I use it and it rocks.

I found an old radio shack CB for free. Lots of people wanna get rid of their radios for about $5.00 to $10.00.

You do not know what was done to them so you are on your own. Yes you can peak & tune them but that is more money. Now keep in mind you are running 5 watts. Lots of people run amplifiers on theirs and can talk right over ya. Some people don't wanna talk to anyone except who they know.

Others will help ya. best of luck . welcome
 

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