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BaoFengs: amazing, or a sham?

I'm looking to get walkie-talkies for my family. I have heard a lot of great things about BaoFengs, and a lot of bad things. Some say the UV-5R is great, but the FCC seems not to like them and I don't really understand them. It seems like they're just portable HAM radios that people are using illegally as walkie-talkies, but maybe I'm confused.

I've heard them described as CB radios, but then I've read they can't be used as CB radios at all. They can't use FRS, and you're supposed to get a license to use GMRS. But then I've read you can use them as MURS walkie-talkes, legally and without a license.

If MURS is a good option for walkie talkies, and UV-5Rs work for this purpose, then they might be a good option. As an added bonus, you can listen to HAM on them, and even transmit if you have a license.

What I really want is a walkie-talkie that can also be used as a 2-way CB radio. That seems more useful than a handheld HAM, but maybe you can tell me otherwise.
I'm looking to get walkie-talkies for my family. I have heard a lot of great things about BaoFengs, and a lot of bad things. Some say the UV-5R is great, but the FCC seems not to like them and I don't really understand them. It seems like they're just portable HAM radios that people are using illegally as walkie-talkies, but maybe I'm confused.

I've heard them described as CB radios, but then I've read they can't be used as CB radios at all. They can't use FRS, and you're supposed to get a license to use GMRS. But then I've read you can use them as MURS walkie-talkes, legally and without a license.

If MURS is a good option for walkie talkies, and UV-5Rs work for this purpose, then they might be a good option. As an added bonus, you can listen to HAM on them, and even transmit if you have a license.

What I really want is a walkie-talkie that can also be used as a 2-way CB radio. That seems more useful than a handheld HAM, but maybe you can tell me otherwise.
 
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I'm looking to get walkie-talkies for my family. I have heard a lot of great things about BaoFengs, and a lot of bad things. Some say the UV-5R is great, but the FCC seems not to like them and I don't really understand them. It seems like they're just portable HAM radios that people are using illegally as walkie-talkies, but maybe I'm confused.

I've heard them described as CB radios, but then I've read they can't be used as CB radios at all. They can't use FRS, and you're supposed to get a license to use GMRS. But then I've read you can use them as MURS walkie-talkes, legally and without a license.

If MURS is a good option for walkie talkies, and UV-5Rs work for this purpose, then they might be a good option. As an added bonus, you can listen to HAM on them, and even transmit if you have a license.

What I really want is a walkie-talkie that can also be used as a 2-way CB radio. That seems more useful than a handheld HAM, but maybe you can tell me otherwise.
If you haven't purchased radi's yet check out the Wouxun KG-805G gmrs radio or the KG-805M murs radio. Gmrs need a license, and 4 watt's handheld or up to 50 watts mobile/ base unit. I believe murs is limited to 2 watts across the board. I have a set of the KG-805g's and reallly like them.
 
($18 for junk. Not legal. No thanks)

I think all might agree that reliable, (relative) long-distance performance man-to-man is desirable.

How to achieve it is the thing.

It’s an enormous country we live in. It’s not someone’s backyard.

Government made itself arbiter. But checked out of development long ago (social rules).

The Bill of Rights is for rich men to wrangle their way ahead with whomever has captured government at that time.

That those enumerated rights are for all men is known as a polite fiction.

Can one tie up the regulatory and justice system as an individual using its rules?

Do the US & State constitutions provide taxpayer-subsidy of rules challenge?

If one cannot directly engage, then, indeed, why something isn’t “legal” hasn’t moral or ethical basis as a Christian would see it.

Are some persons part of a special class by birth, position, or office wherein laws are applied differently?

This conflict isn’t solved even though the 10th Amendment references it. It’s the ever-handy holding out of a prize above a concealed tiger trap.

So long as you don’t try to use it . . .
you have Freedom of Speech!

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“Technical Difficulties” doesn’t suffice as a bar. Harm is relative, not absolute.

John Whitehead and other authors do a fine job of portraying that the average American can’t get through a day without being in multiple violation of laws or rules by agencies.

Congress CANNOT delegate the power of law to agencies (rule-making) via unelected officials not subject to recall by the People.

“Show us the transcript of the debate on the House floor.” (is whether or not a law is a law).

Better, my pocket copy of the Unabridged United States Constitution doesn’t provide for such abrogations.

Those “rules” (laws), therefore, haven’t the weight of air.

Does one suppose that it’s the violation which matters, not at all the purported substance of public welfare?

(It’s just words. Who cares?)

That’d be the taxpayer-parasites. The grifters in uniform. Use of a badge and a gun for the guarantee of three-hots-and-a-cot plus pension.

Amoral.

A mighty sad state of affairs. Giving out a magic badge is despicable. Making it a career path guarantees CONSTANT abuse.

But all of them special badges have been furloughed without pay for the duration given that any authority has never been anything but a grey area. Right?

Their protection & ours is served thus under present extraordinary circumstances in a time of tension by furlough. Quieted.

Ha!


1). The tech is there.

2). The need for use is obvious.
(Not desire. NEED)

3). The process of rule-making is established (despite being extra-Constitutional); in no way is it a given, much less an absolute.

4). The abandonment of responsibility isn’t on citizens (with God-given rights).

5). The power to authorize appears (is effectively) abandoned. While penalties still exist.

Ergo, ruination of amateur radio is a desirable outcome.

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Get the gear while you can.

Quality gear.

Closing the border to trade is easy.

You can trust the Chinese to place American priorities first in order to serve our market.

Possession of such a device would never be such to act as a locator beacon.

Ha!

Friends in high places don’t recognize borders.

Who are the controlling shareholders of any electronics corporation able to serve the national market?

The same as own & run the firearms manufacturers.

The traps don’t cease because you hold dear some words.

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“Technical Difficulties” doesn’t suffice as a bar. Harm is relative, not absolute.

John Whitehead and other authors do a fine job of portraying that the average American can’t get through a day without being in multiple violation of laws or rules by agencies.

Congress CANNOT delegate the power of law to agencies (rule-making) via unelected officials not subject to recall by the People.

“Show us the transcript of the debate on the House floor.”

Better, my pocket copy of the Unabridged United States Constitution doesn’t provide for such.

Those “rules” haven’t the weight of air.

Does one suppose that it’s the violation which matters, not at all the purported substance?

It’s just words. Who cares?

That’d be the taxpayer-parasites. The grifters in uniform. Use a badge and a gun for the guarantee of three-hots-and-a-cot. As it’s also career-building. Amoral.

A mighty sad state of affairs.

But all of them have been furloughed without pay for the duration given that any authority has never been anything but a grey area. Right?

1). The tech is there.

2). The need for use is obvious.
(Not desire. NEED)

3). The process of rule-making is established (despite being extra-Constitutional).

4). The abandonment of responsibility isn’t on citizens (with God-given rights).

5). The power to authorize appears (is effectively) abandoned. While penalties still exist.

Ergo, ruination of amateur radio is a desirable outcome.

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Taken as a whole, FCC rules can be summed up as follows:
  1. Don't interfere with licensed users.
  2. Don't use radio as an aid to criminal activities.
The interference rule applies even if you are also a licensed user, unless your license is a primary allocation and the licensee you are interfering with is secondary. Example: hams have a secondary allocation on 60 Meters.
 
No government agencies, no major corporations, no non-governmental organizations have ever committed criminal acts while in use of restricted radio equipment?

Okay. I get your point. And I understand the advertising campaign to have sold it.

But who is it penalized by removal of licensure?


The Pentagon or the local police department hasn’t any more standing in court than you. Their license removed?

Abuse of the rules is built-in.

The very premise of the rules is therefore untrue

That it seemed to work was by way of the spirit of cooperation.

For which rules aren’t needed.

Mark 2:27 The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath.

That one refrains from abusing the common property is inherent to a civil society. A Christian understanding of one’s obligations to others.

Rules, are for the rule-makers.

Those who can’t be trusted when the backs of others are turned is inherent to denial of citizenship. Incapable of being American.

So, time to rid the Universe of those individuals with moral agency.

Is the obvious answer while importing millions of unworthies. With a new set of definitions that old scrap of paper didn’t contain.

The police or the Pentagon was never needed. Your job it was as husband, father, citizen. Man.

Buh-bye!

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“Merit” (like science or mathematics) is fundamentally racist. Sexist.

A license granted via merit?

Ha!

Remember that your opinion doesn’t matter. You benefitted from a rigged game.

Truth
is fungible.

The evildoers who founded this country via genocide and on the backs of the oppressed is the central belief of everyone under age 30. Or, is it 40?

Either way it’s the electoral majority.

I hope you did your part by keeping TV as the hearth of your home. That you might have restricted use only makes you the last steer into the cattle-haulers trailer.

The Silent King. Whose word is final. Before whom you bowed. Before whom you still scrape.

Worked, did ye, nay, slaved to subsidize your replacement population? Hated your children so much your grandchildren will be hunted for sport.

Fitting atonement.

The Knoxville Horror, will be made a memorial to those out ahead of the curve. Risking prison to enact street justice. Nothing is off the table for your kind.


“Neither husband nor father was he”.

One might make that a bit more poetic to grace his tombstone. Ere it be removed and crushed for road base.

The graves of the holy innocents will be removed. Ones eternal rest — and of all his ancestors to 1619 — will be ploughed under. Sown with salt.

That tombstone your plea of guilty as charged.

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Radio could easily be denied.

Possession, alone, ipso facto evidence of criminal intent.

Violation of the Patriots Health & Safety Act of 2021:

Trading with Non-Approved Vendors

Sound familiar?

Been to a barbershop this week? The dentist? Any individuals place of business? Or just big corporation chain stores?

Where was the court order (a writ) to close any business at all? Due process of law means just that. Proof, beyond doubt.


Sir, is that an empty beer can in your car? Drug Paraphernalia? Cash in your wallet the result of criminal activities? Expired inspection? No insurance?


Buh-bye little deuce coupe



Sir, is that a CB on your kitchen shelf?



(Just $18, huh?)

TV in the house = Cuckolded.
Trash it. Set an example.

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