Best ten meter ssb radio?

[AudioShockwav]

The question was , what is the best ten meter ssb radio, I assume Mobile.
If you are ONLY concerned with Ten SSB, look for a good used Radio Shack HTX 100.
USB and CW only, No AM, no FM no LSB and because of that it has a tighter RX than all of the 2510/2600/Lincoln/2830 radios and most of the 10/export rigs.
If you want AM/FM/SSB with FM offsets the RCI DX radios have a good track record.
Newer radios that get good marks are the Optima, the Maxlog radios and the Magnum one.
The New Lincoln II + radio has 10/11/12 meters, and looking at What M0GY and Simon have posted on youtube it shows promise, only concern is if they have fixed the CW bug that plagued the previous models.
I have emailed President group France about this, but as of yet I have not gotten a reply, and as of yet, it seems no one has tried the new version on CW and posted it.
Yes Multi mode all band HF rigs post good specs, but most 10 meter nuts don't want to mount there $900.00 plus hf rig in the car for just 10 meter work.
Just my very biased opinion.

73
Jeff

 

[Captain Kilowatt]

It hasn't been done because I haven't even gotten my anytone at-6666 in the mail yet in order to ship it to Sherwood engineering to even find out what the numbers are. Until then we have nothing to compare to.

You asked about comparisons between CB's and HF rigs and how/why HF rigs were better and you got your answers. The specs are well known and published. Now you say the comparison has not been done because you have not received your radio from Mark yet.Anything you get from your buddy Mark is not going to be head and shoulders above any HF rig regardless of what bullshit numbers he throws at you. You have been trolling for his shop for a few years according to your online posts on various forums and each of those forums has greeted you with the same disdain as you have received on this one. Don't you think it is time to give it up? A smart person would think so.

 

[rabbiporkchop]

You asked about comparisons between CB's and HF rigs and how/why HF rigs were better and you got your answers. The specs are well known and published. Now you say the comparison has not been done because you have not received your radio from Mark yet.Anything you get from your buddy Mark is not going to be head and shoulders above any HF rig regardless of what bullshit numbers he throws at you. You have been trolling for his shop for a few years according to your online posts on various forums and each of those forums has greeted you with the same disdain as you have received on this one. Don't you think it is time to give it up? A smart person would think so.

A smart person would recognize reality for what it is and not what he wishes it was.
By your own admission you've never seen the noise floor as low as what I said it was on one of these cheap rigs. The point isn't to surpass the capability of an HF rig but to come close for a fraction of the price. Seems to me you would be extremely interested on what Sherwood Engineering comes up with as far as numbers. That would at least give you something to shoot for in regards to modifications you might do for friends. Then again many people don't want their perception of reality shattered. I totally understand-my ex-wife is the same way..
I'm the type of person that tries to learn something new everyday.
Who knows, maybe I might even make a fool out of myself but I won't know until I get the test results from Sherwood.
( although I'm fairly confident what those results might be considering Russell Clift's eyes almost popped out of his head when he turned his generator down as low as would go and he asked me if I wanted to hear frogs farting on the planet Pluto )

 

[Captain Kilowatt]

A smart person would recognize reality for what it is and not what he wishes it was.
By your own admission you've never seen the noise floor as low as what I said it was on one of these cheap rigs. The point isn't to surpass the capability of an HF rig but to come close for a fraction of the price. Seems to me you would be extremely interested on what Sherwood Engineering comes up with as far as numbers. That would at least give you something to shoot for in regards to modifications you might do for friends. Then again many people don't want their perception of reality shattered. I totally understand-my ex-wife is the same way..
I'm the type of person that tries to learn something new everyday.
Who knows, maybe I might even make a fool out of myself but I won't know until I get the test results from Sherwood.
( although I'm fairly confident what those results might be considering Russell Clift's eyes almost popped out of his head when he turned his generator down as low as would go and he asked me if I wanted to hear frogs farting on the planet Pluto )

I have never seen it because it is impossible to achieve regardless of what bullshit Mark spews. plain and simple. I do understand what noise floor is and i do understand device specs and I do believe manufacturers that design and build these RF front-end devices would state their numbers as being better if they indeed were better. There is a reason why satellite receivers use liquid nitrogen to cool their receiver front-end low noise amplifiers and that is to achieve their maximum sensitivity. Unless you are running a liquid nitrogen package on your gear with upgraded transistors in it 0.001 microvolt sensitivity on a CB rig is bullshit. as for many people not wanting their perception of reality shattered, you are one of them. you would rather believe in the fantasy world of Mark Sherman than in reality.

 

[rabbiporkchop]

I have never seen it because it is impossible to achieve regardless of what bullshit Mark spews. plain and simple. I do understand what noise floor is and i do understand device specs and I do believe manufacturers that design and build these RF front-end devices would state their numbers as being better if they indeed were better. There is a reason why satellite receivers use liquid nitrogen to cool their receiver front-end low noise amplifiers and that is to achieve their maximum sensitivity. Unless you are running a liquid nitrogen package on your gear with upgraded transistors in it 0.001 microvolt sensitivity on a CB rig is bullshit. as for many people not wanting their perception of reality shattered, you are one of them. you would rather believe in the fantasy world of Mark Sherman than in reality.

If that was true I'd be content with my delusions and unwilling to shatter my delusions by sending this rig off to Sherwood engineering to find out the truth. But since living in reality is my highest priority I'm willing to send this off to Sherwood to find out what the truth is regardless of what it may be.
The best Techs in the business have looked at my equipment and they have all told me they can't even come close to duplicating those results.
( except for one guy in California without preconceived notions who does something similar on a daily basis )

 

[Tallman]

My favorite 10 meter rig is one that has all of the bands on it. Why limit the fun you can have?

 

[Bearcat]

Is the Alinco str8t decent ?

 

[w9cll]

The best Techs in the business have looked at my equipment and they have all told me they can't even come close to duplicating those results.

Simple way of ending this, state the names of who has examined your rigs and we can all contact them to get the results. If these are true techs they won't mind being asked. If you do not provide the names then this is what we all believe it to be...BS at its finest.

 

[w9cll]

Is the Alinco str8t decent ?

From what I have heard they are fine rigs.

 

[fourstringburn]

From what I have heard they are fine rigs.

Not really, I have one for a spare mobile.

The worst is the VFO is loose and sloppy with no adjustment. This is pratically unuseable and you have to use the up/down buttons instead and lock the VFO so it won't drift. This is ridiculous because the VFO is the center piece of the radio.

Lacks useful filtering and compression settings. Also power settings are only swtchable from 1 watt, 5 watt, 100 Watts. Has to be internally modified to 50 Watts only to run an amplifier.

The overall size is big for a mobile install.

The good is it has a separation kit for mobile installs for the removable head.

Audio is good and most people on the other end will give a good report as long as you don't tell them beforehand you're running an Alinco.

Good thing I got it in trade for a mobile screwdriver antenna I can't use anymore.

I'm thinking about selling it though.

 

[w9cll]

i have never owned one only going on that I have heard other people say.

 

[fourstringburn]

i have never owned one only going on that I have heard other people say.

I wonder if they would say the same things I'm saying.

I wouldn't buy one new. There are better ones that could be had for a bit more.

 

[w9cll]

Honestly I have heard good thing but the VFO dial did come up

 

[Captain Kilowatt]

Simple way of ending this, state the names of who has examined your rigs and we can all contact them to get the results. If these are true techs they won't mind being asked. If you do not provide the names then this is what we all believe it to be...BS at its finest.

Agreed. Anybody can make whatever claims they want and God knows some around here have and continue to make some pretty wild claims with NOTHING to back it up other than name dropping. I'm still waiting for someone to build a beam that outperforms my titanium/magnesium alloy dipole. The only issue I have with it is that it just has waaay too much gain and overloads my receiver.

 

[Bearcat]

Not really, I have one for a spare mobile.

The worst is the VFO is loose and sloppy with no adjustment. This is pratically unuseable and you have to use the up/down buttons instead and lock the VFO so it won't drift. This is ridiculous because the VFO is the center piece of the radio.

Lacks useful filtering and compression settings. Also power settings are only swtchable from 1 watt, 5 watt, 100 Watts. Has to be internally modified to 50 Watts only to run an amplifier.

The overall size is big for a mobile install.

The good is it has a separation kit for mobile installs for the removable head.

Audio is good and most people on the other end will give a good report as long as you don't tell them beforehand you're running an Alinco.

Good thing I got it in trade for a mobile screwdriver antenna I can't use anymore.

I'm thinking about selling it though.