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Classical example of why dumbing down of the tests is not a good idea.

Lil'Yeshua said:
The FCC made the test for the extra class didn't they?
There is responsibility that goes along with having a ham license in the first place. The FCC is not going to let someone operate their equipment without knowing how to operate their equipment.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG that was funny. Say it again please. Just one more time to make my day!! Puuuulleeeeezze say it again.

Now on a slightly more serious note, you have NO idea how poorly qualified a lot of people are when they get their ticket. Memorizing the answers to the posted question pool does not in any way, shape, or form even remotely qualify as actually having gained the proper knowledge to be turned loose on the bands with 1500 watts of power.Nor does it ensure knowledge about RFI, not IMD, nor proper modulation, nor anything else really whether radio related or not. Memorizing answers is just that. It is far different than learning the background behind those answers and why the answer is what it is rather than just simply IS.
 
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Captain Kilowatt said:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG that was funny. Say it again please. Just one more time to make my day!! Puuuulleeeeezze say it again.

Now on a slightly more serious note, you have NO idea how poorly qualified a lot of people are when they get their ticket. Memorizing the answers to the posted question pool does not in any way, shape, or form even remotely qualify as actually having gained the proper knowledge to be turned loose on the bands with 1500 watts of power.Nor does it ensure knowledge about RFI, not IMD, nor proper modulation, nor anything else really whether radio related or not. Memorizing answers is just that. It is far different than learning the background behind those answers and why the answer is what it is rather than just simply IS.
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Well it should be. :O
 
I agree with the mentoring as well and have done so since even before I was licensed. With my electronics background I was helping folks get their tickets before I even had mine. Over the years however I have seen the level of expectancy rise to almost the point of entitlement. I have also seen the exams "dumbed down" nearly to the point of "why bother". As Bob Dylan once sang "The time's they are a changin' " but that does not mean we are actually moving forward. Sometimes it's one step forward and two steps back.
 
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wavrider said:
... YOU as a self proclaimed V.E. should know this.

THIS applies to those (as you call them) 10-4, good buddy, sweep tube using cber's also....
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SELF proclaimed???? no I have the paperwork to PROVE it.

perhaps you need to chill out, .......and learn how to read better. did you miss the "as you call them" part? and the icon at the end to?

any rational person would have realized that was a rhetorical, joking comment, but then, there ARE a few certain people on this forum that don't have a clue and just want to whine.:tt2:

you might want to read some of my past posts, and you will see that on many posts I HAVE helped to mentor new people, CB'ers and Amateurs alike.
 
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binrat said:
.... I'm relatively new as an amateur (5 years) ... I only had alittle help by a local when I was studying for the Advanced test.
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gee, something doesn't sound right. the Advanced element was removed and all testing stopped in April 2000.
 
Captain Kilowatt said:
You are right. Something is not right.....you. :D Binrat is in Canada... a little geopolitical difference.
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no problem there, it DOES get a little confusing dealing with different countries on forums.

thats why I said "something doesn't sound right".:D

to me "the Great White North" is around Ohio, Penn, ect.

Does Radio Canada also publish the actual question pools too?

BTW, it's kinda ironic, but, the OP on QRZ appears to be a female (possibly) Canadian, with a US callsign. well, she says her brother has a VE*.* call and that she is currently living in Florida/Georgia. perhaps her brother is an American living in Canada?

it does appear by her FRN that she has had a U.S. TECH, GENERAL, and now an AMATEUR EXTRA license over about a 5 year period.
 
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Having a basic idea of how antennas work should be part of the exam process.In my area when the local amateur radio clubs do their testing classes they do spend some time on antennas for vhf/uhf and a basic dipole for hf and the the math it takes to get one to work.There is one group that will do an antenna building party as part of their study course

These days there is no reason a person cant find easy to understand information on how to build an antenna or what is needed to make one work. The internet is a wonderful tool for finding information on almost anything

Google works...most of the time
 
kd-5-bgt said:
Having a basic idea of how antennas work should be part of the exam process.In my area when the local amateur radio clubs do their testing classes they do spend some time on antennas for vhf/uhf and a basic dipole for hf and the the math it takes to get one to work.There is one group that will do an antenna building party as part of their study course

These days there is no reason a person cant find easy to understand information on how to build an antenna or what is needed to make one work. The internet is a wonderful tool for finding information on almost anything

Google works...most of the time
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And knowing how to protect one's self and their loved ones from RF in the shack and nearby.
 
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Lil'Yeshua said:
And knowing how to protect one's self and their loved ones from RF in the shack and nearby.
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That's simple. Don't touch the antenna while transmitting. :D Seriously, those RF exposure limits imposed by the FCC and Industry Canada are a joke. They are WELL below even the minimally acceptable limits and nobody on HF is going to exceed them unless they are running legal limit and sitting in the middle of their four-square on 80m. I had to do RF exposure limits calculations and post signs at our AM transmitter sites. The "Danger" zone was something like 20 feet from the center of radiation of a three tower array with a kilowatt carrier (4 Kw pep) into it and 30 feet for the "Warning" zone. The "Off Limits" zone was about 1/2 of an inch from the tower as that was about how far it could arc on a wet day. :laugh:Higher frequencies of course have a different radius for those zones but most people have their antenna up above ground level anyway.
 

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