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Cutting to length

I found this, from DX-antennas.com

WHAT LENGTH?
As mentioned the best length is the shortest, in this way the loss due to the cable is the lowest.
There can be one advantage by extending the length of the cable:.
A HALF WAVE coax cable or ANY multiple (1, 1½, 2 wavelength) length of this will show you: "exactly the same input resistance at both ends of cable". In normal words:
You can measure the exact SWR from the antenna with these lengths of coax cable.

If your antenna is truly 1:1 it doesn't matter, each SWR measurement anywhere on the line and you will find 1:1.
Only when your SWR isn't 1:1 but higher your measurements will change according to length, this is when it can come in handy to keep the line a half wave long (or any multiple).
I like the general sound of this....but it seems to imply that we should all be shinnying up our masts and towers to check the SWR at the antenna connector. And actually... in a twisted uinverse... that doesn't soundlike a bad idea. At least then you KNOW the match that the antenna itself is providing.
 
I like the general sound of this....but it seems to imply that we should all be shinnying up our masts and towers to check the SWR at the antenna connector. And actually... in a twisted uinverse... that doesn't soundlike a bad idea. At least then you KNOW the match that the antenna itself is providing.
You can tell the match at the antenna through any length coax. As I mentioned earlier, the SWR isn't affected by changing the coax length. SWR represents the reflection coefficient and that can be measured accurately without knowing the R±jX values. It is measuring the latter, these R±jX values, where coax length matters.

I have a theory on the use of half-wave coax jumpers.. In my opinion, the radio's mounting bracket is not a reliable RF ground. There is often paint and plastic involved. If the path for common mode current ends at the radio, making that path a 1/2 wavelength long (by using a half wave jumper) puts a high impedance that blocks common-mode current on the ends (at the antenna). It would be like trying to drive the end of a half-wave dipole with a low impedance source ~ not gonna work well. So, if the radio is not attached to further grounding structure, using a half-wave jumper could provide a huge improvement.

If making it a half wavelength puts a high impedance at the beginning of the common mode path, there will be no common mode current. If there is no common mode current, the SWR readings are accurate.
 
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I like the general sound of this....but it seems to imply that we should all be shinnying up our masts and towers to check the SWR at the antenna connector. And actually... in a twisted uinverse... that doesn't soundlike a bad idea. At least then you KNOW the match that the antenna itself is providing.
2 " pipe 50' high n im 67 naa dont think im doin that. however i do check every antenna i put up clamped to a fence post before i put em in the air way up there
 
You can tell the match at the antenna through any length coax. As I mentioned earlier, the SWR isn't affected by changing the coax length. SWR represents the reflection coefficient and that can be measured accurately without knowing the R±jX values. It is measuring the latter, these R±jX values, where coax length matters.

I have a theory on the use of half-wave coax jumpers.. In my opinion, the radio's mounting bracket is not a reliable RF ground. There is often paint and plastic involved. If the path for common mode current ends at the radio, making that path a 1/2 wavelength long (by using a half wave jumper) puts a high impedance that blocks common-mode current on the ends (at the antenna). It would be like trying to drive the end of a half-wave dipole with a low impedance source ~ not gonna work well. So, if the radio is not attached to further grounding structure, using a half-wave jumper could provide a huge improvement.

If making it a half wavelength puts a high impedance at the beginning of the common mode path, there will be no common mode current. If there is no common mode current, the SWR readings are accurate.
i got a common ground in the house tied to a copper ground rod outside the house. i got a heavy wire going to my radios and they are grounded to that common ground as well as electric boxes all tied into the common ground.
a friend works at our lectric coop and he came down 1 day to help me make the ground up. it sure helped my swr and noise level
 
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@OP

IMO, For co-phased antennas,

get one of these and screw it into the back of the last device in line.


Use two 1/4, 3/4, etc. (odd multiples) wave length identical pieces of 75ohm coax depending on what will reach. The physical length of the 75ohm coax will depend on the target frequency (in this case - 27.185) and the VF of the coax (depends on the dielectric type). High end RG-6 (Belden 7915A or 9116) has a VF of 82.5%

(Wave Length x VF of coax x Speed of Light constant) / Frequency = Coax Length

for 1/4 WL:
(.25 x .825 x 983.571056E+6 Ft/sec) / 27.185 = 7.4623' - probably won't reach both antennas

for 3/4 WL:
(.75 x .825 x 983.571056E+6 Ft/sec) / 27.185 = 22.3868' - more than enough length to reach and make CMC chokes @ the antennas

Good Luck
 

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