Email on buying American made products.

[GnG8d]

The global economy " B--L S--T" along with the " GREEDY LYING COMPANIES " in this country will be our downfall if things don't change . I M O

People should stop blaming the companies and start looking at the crony capitalism that the government has in place.

Capitalism is not the problem, the government is.

 

[GnG8d]

Go Unions!

Oh, you mean those large democratic lobbyists?

 

[mr_fx]

I take this email as further proof that unions have ruined this country.

yep... that's why the jobs go overseas

 

[Moleculo]

The U.S. is a free market economy. The dynamics of a free market economy are driven by supply and demand. Demand is a function of what the consumer chooses to purchase. Barring any outside influences (supply shortages, etc.), the companies that provide the "supply" of products will only respond to the demands of the consumer.

You cannot affect the entire free market economy of the U.S. by simply "boycotting" a small number of "made in China" products. The boycott would need to be large enough and long enough and far reaching enough that it causes a significant enough impact on the the manufacturers (the "supply") to force them to change.

If you really want to see things change in the long term, we should choose to buy fewer overpriced U.S. made products and look for the quality Chinese products and purchase MORE of those. Vote with the almighty dollar. When the unions that cause labor to be over-priced have no place to work because their employer is out of business, and when the local governments with their ridiculous, unfriendly regulations are collecting less tax dollars because there aren't new businesses, we will wake up and be able to undo the problems causing jobs to go elsewhere. More people need to lose jobs and the economy needs to get much worse before many people will finally understand the situation.

I give you a personal example: I used to buy only salt water fishing rods made from companies operating in California like CalStar and Seeker. They make fine products, but they are very expensive. I haven't purchased a rod by either of those companies in two years. Now nearly all of the rod blanks I purchase are made in China. Why? Because the quality is the same, the product performs just as good, some of the innovation in their new stuff is even better, and it's half the price. If the American rod blank makers want my business, they can learn to adapt to my requirements. If they don't adapt to the reality of the market, they can go out of business.

Supply and Demand at work.

 

[GnG8d]

The U.S. used to be a free market economy.

^^fixt

 

[Robb]

Yep, Unions are responsible for outsourcing.

Question is; how does one change the situation?

Unions are the police, the fire dept, hospital workers, teachers, garbage men, the PRESS, etc. So, they have permeated the entire structure. The only 'true' middle class that make up most of that group are those that ARE Union.

They bribe or extort and in effect kill gov't at many levels. Including both local and upper-level points of this gov't They offer the carrot and the stick to get their way and have been doing it for years. Yet we seem to be blind and powerless to change it. The press should be exposing this; but they are Union and told to look the other way. If one really wants to put the boot into the soft parts of Unions; one needs to free the mind so the butt will follow. In this case, the press needs to be liberated from the Union's grip.

I think we can all see this. I'm not against the Union members per se. I'm against him becoming a tool to his ultimate own undoing - is all. Union leaders are the REAL beneficiaries . . .

 

[Moleculo]

It's not just the unions that are responsible, although they have a big play in the problem. There are plenty of jobs that need to be done and plenty of lazy Americans that would rather have those jobs performed by illegal aliens.

Robb, you live in Cali like me and you can clearly see that this State is crippled by the unions. In all of the major CA cities, the unions control the local politics. They guarantee that only union friendly people get elected to city councils and the state legislature. The teacher's union is the single most powerful union in this state.

The way you fix it is with your dollar and with your vote. Unfortunately CA's economy as a whole will probably have to fail until the popular vote will turn on the unions. Other states aren't in nearly as big of a hole to dig out of.

 

[Robb]

It's not just the unions that are responsible, although they have a big play in the problem. There are plenty of jobs that need to be done and plenty of lazy Americans that would rather have those jobs performed by illegal aliens.

Little known fact about Construction unions, something I found out living in CA. Unions contractors hire illegals intentionally and get paid for their work at union wages for these workers. These workers only get a fraction of what they would have got IF they were real union members. The contractors collect that loot, and then kick-backs are paid out to Union leaders. Whlle the real union laborers are left out of the work they should have got. The entire housing boom here in CA over the last decade was rife with it. Then the banks did the housing scam that cost the US gov't and the US taxpayer
Big scam; long time running,

That is only one of the scams I am aware of that I know about; there are more. . .

Wouldn't surprise me in the least that the US gov't is ALLOWING illegals into this country because unions are making our representatives look the other way. Clearly, it is the responsibility of the US gov't to control the flow of any illegal people in this country and they are ignoring this. Arizona gov't WAS and IS correct for opposing the US gov't concerning the issue of illegals.
US gov't = Wrong.
Arizona gov't = Correct.


EDIT:
BTW Mole; did you hear about that new railway project that is supposed to give S.CA and N.CA fast commuter transportation? It is projected to cost billions that was ratified by the legislature. Union pressure of gov't and union members to get the work. No telling how many of them will be illegals. Kickbacks for days - all at the expense of the CA taxpayer thru Union carrot/stick gov't officials. Doesn't get more corrupt than that. Funny thing is - we don't even need this rail system! What a shame!

We don't need this railway. The state doesn't have the money - seriously. Yet union influences are seeing to keeping their union members employed. Much like the BART system here in the Bay Area - just on a much larger scale. Google it. Underbid the job and ended paying vastly more for it to be completed. Local gov't was helpless. This project between LA and N.CA is probably going to be another BART except on a larger scale. Get ready for that one. Big joke on everybody . . .