HEIL HITLER - I mean BUSH

[Sonwatcher]

The ADL site just happened to be the one I posted. There are many sites that give the same info on militia. And all you have to do is do a search on their ideologies. Most of your sites mentioned dealt with gun control which was not an issue in my post. My issue is what I wrote in question of the outcome if these militant groups were able to take over our government and control the American people.

 

[2M Guy]

When the ADL lies on gun issues, expect them to lie on other topics as well.

 

[Sonwatcher]

I don't know if they lied or not. Like I said, the same information can be found all over the web.It's not hard to research. And these groups don't hide their core ideologies.

 

[Hamin' X]

the same information can be found all over the web.

:roll:

Must be true then. :shock:

Rich

 

[2M Guy]

OMG, I just checked out your Florida professor. He believes parents should be licenced. That guy is a serious statist.

 

[Sonwatcher]

Why don't you guys quit skirting the original question in my post ? Seems like you are to afraid to consider the results if the various militia were to unite and take control of our government. I think it's a valid question.Many of them bring with them core beliefs that are very dangerous to our society.

 

[2M Guy]

Who are these militia you speak of? You ask a question with an ill defined term in it. These people? I don't fear them, should I? What if the government was taken over by those who hold The Constitution and The BIll of Rights in contempt? Oh, never mind, already happened.

 

[2M Guy]

Some help. Militia for Dummies. LOL

 

[LoneWolf TN]

I don't think we need to concern ourselves with "Militias".
Most, if not all of the major militias in the US are run by the Feds. I know this for an absolute fact.
I think we need worry more about the complete collapse of our economy and or BOG (Bolshevik Occupied Government) committing another (9/11 x 10 on steroids) type event. Which will lead to martial law, anarchy, civil war and eventually - Revolution.
As far as the ADL, they are parasitic Boslsheviks, a branch of the B'nai B'rith.

For Love of Freedom and Liberty, LoneWolf TN

 

[Sonwatcher]

I don't think you're as naive about which groups as much as you try to appear to be. What is your opinion of the Constitutional Ammendments after the 10th Ammendment ?

 

[2M Guy]

The 18th was a real winner, led to the Drug War, Prohibition is still in effect. Opened up a large black market, drive bys, violent gangs and some of the worst propaganda used against the American people.

The 27th is a joke, they vote pay raises according to news cycle, incumbents are firmly entrenched in alot of cases.

The 16th is one that is in dispute about the ratification(by the states). It's led us into rampant socialism.

The 17th? You seem to like this news service.

 

[2M Guy]

Stll, which groups? The American people, capable of bearing arms, are the militia. As defined by the US government.

Neo Nazis, other hate groups, and others that do not belive in the Constitution and BOR, do not fit into this catagory.

 

[Sonwatcher]

The militia groups you support are the ideal but in reality many have common ties with groups that are in the second catagory you mentioned based on their views of government and the Constitution. That is the common ground many align themselves with even though they may not share the same ideologies.

Below are some of those groups-

Similarly, in a rambling 20-page document written in November 1994, for the Freemen's common law court, Rodney Skurdal spells out his belief in Christian Identity and, echoing Posse founder Gale, concludes: God is not a God unto the other races, but only that of Israel, the white race ; Jews were fathered by Satan ; and people of color are the beasts of the field of Genesis. Skurdal then appropriates Leviticus 20:15-16 to argue for the execution of interracial couples:
If a woman approaches any beast [i.e., person of color] and lies with it, you shall kill the woman and the beast; they shall be put to death. He concludes with a genocidal fantasy frequently found in Christian Identity, nor are we to make any covenants with the other races when we move into a new land, we are to kill all of the inhabitants of the other races.

The Freemen are not alone in their bigotry. A training tape sold by United Sovereigns purports to expose those who are called Jews and have no genetic or racial ties to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and are of the synagogue of Satan. United Sovereigns also sells a tract by a North Carolina Christian Identity leader which reads in part, from the very earliest records of Scripture, we again have Talmudic Jews
ruling over us from behind the scenes. They also peddle the notorious anti-Semitic tract and long-unmasked forgery, The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.

SECOND CLASS CITIZENS
While Christian Identity is the most virulent dogma expressed by the common law court activists, the most frequent form of Patriot bigotry is its racist definition of citizenship. As the Free[man] Newsletter explains, its quest is for political sovereignty, described as the self-determinate will of the organic (white, Adam, Israel, people). The We the People referred to in the Constitution,the newsletter continues,is the white race and none other ;

the 14th Amendment which extended basic citizenship rights to all created a second class of citizen, Blacks and Aliens.

The bogus distinction between the rights of (white) state citizens and 14th Amendment citizens occurs time and again in the documents filed by common law court activists. Many describe the legal basis for the courts as our organic law," a reference to the Christian Patriot notion that the US should be reconstructed under the organic Constitution the original Constitution and Bill of Rights minus,among others, the 13th and 14th Amendments.
Far from being anti-government, militia and common law court activists are decidedly pro-government, if and only if such a government resembles that of the pre-Civil War South.

Here is a letter from a member of the MO.militia to a member of the Michigan militia that verifies ties on common ground-

Let me offer the services of myself to help you put up a WWW page
on behalf of Patrick Henry On-Line, which is a Revolutionary
Resistance WWW page. I also have Identity Christian and White
Nationalist Resistance allies who would be pleased to put up hyperlinks
to a real Resistance organization.

I thank you for your time and attention and hope to be of service
to the legitimate successor administration of the Michigan Militia Corps.


Sincerely yours,
Martin Lindstedt
Director of Political Warfare,
7th Missouri Militia
Resistance Political Front
http://www.mo-net.com/~mlindste/7momilit.html

The response-

I can't agree with what your ideas are, (at least some of them)
but I support your right to your opinion, and I will defend your
right to your opinion. I can say you have done your home work
and thank you for your input. I know that we maybe of a different
mind set about the way the Bible is written, but we can both
agree that the money changers have been in the destruction of our
country. This is not a judgement upon you, this is a thank you
letter for your support. Tom loves to use the ADL to support
his direction, and you know how the media controls the sheepeople.
Once again thankyou, and may you be safe.

Your Friend in Freedom,

Rick Haynes

Response back-

I think you will come around to the Revolutionary Resistance
point of view eventually. This point of view holds that America
should be for Americans, that the criminal regimeist evil
multicultural empire must be overthrown, the racial nationalities
freed to go their own way, and criminal regimeists exterminated
root and branch to safeguard this Revolution. We know what we want,
and thus we know ourselves. We know the enemy and hate them for
what they are...
And I now know that a religious movement of Christian Identity and
a political movement of White Nationalism is the paramount belief
system of the Resistance, and that this Resistance Movement shall
prevail by destroying, not reforming the evil multi-racial empire --
the gulag of racial nationalities. Thus for the past year or two
I have had to ride point for the Resistance.

I assure you that I am willing to help your cause because our
enemies are the same. I do not ask you to believe in or share my
religious beliefs, but am confident that circumstances will force
you to develop similar ones due to the press of reality...
A reinvigorated
militia movement of quality, professing pacifism and
"CONstitutionalism" as a facade could indeed be useful to the
Resistance. Once radicalized, the pacifism and CONstitutional-
idolatry can be sloughed off like a growing snake's skin...
I also think you
need to figure out that the criminal regime is your enemy and that
the Resistance is your ally. I also hope you will clarify your
thinking, and consider what I have said in this open letter. I am
more than willing to help you do that which is necessary. I am


Most Sincerely Yours,


Martin Lindstedt
Director of Political Warfare
7th Missouri Militia
http://www.mo-net.com/~mlindste

Now say the united militias that are joined by their common enemies have toppled the Government. What do you do with those groups that fought with you that now want to implement their dangerous agenda ? Here is where I feel the chaos starts.

 

[LoneWolf TN]

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Sonwatcher, it's all HYPOTHETICAL...

LoneWolf TN

 

[Sonwatcher]

I think we need worry more about the complete collapse of our economy and or BOG (Bolshevik Occupied Government) committing another (9/11 x 10 on steroids) type event. Which will lead to martial law, anarchy, civil war and eventually - Revolution.

I don't think anymore hypothetical than the above. Both can be possible yet most groups seem to be preparing for the one without consideration of the other. If my hypothesis takes place then I see civil war and continual fighting among the ruling factions to see whose Constitutional interpretations get in place followed by the battle for the remaining, dangerous ideologies. Don't think the radical militia will just lay down arms at that point.