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Hy-Gain SPT-500 Super Penetrator Question

If I can get my hands on one would you be interested in testing it and then posting your results on the forum?

locals have tested it here
p-500 was about 1/2 s unit better than maco
maco was 1 sunit better than imax2k and 1 1/2 sunits better than a99.
now i now every meter is different so actul results may vary . but on ssb was
told they heard me the with the p-500. maco was a very close 2nd maybe too
close to call. a99/imax i was heard but was barely over noise level
the p-500/maco are quieter antennas but they only cover 11 meters
unless tuned differently
probaly not the review ya really want but all i got
 
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locals have tested it here
p-500 was about 1/2 s unit better than maco
maco was 1 sunit better than imax2k and 1 1/2 sunits better than a99.
now i now every meter is different so actul results may vary . but on ssb was
told they heard me the with the p-500. maco was a very close 2nd maybe too
close to call. a99/imax i was heard but was barely over noise level
the p-500/maco are quieter antennas but they only cover 11 meters
unless tuned differently
probaly not the review ya really want but all i got

First of all thanks for the info.
Was this the new version of the SPT-500 or the original 1970s version?
 
As aluminium alloy is far dearer now than the 70's I'd expect it to use a lesser quality grade than previously, this will have little if any effect on performance but may affect strength, only way performance will suffer is if matching circuit is lower quality than original, which again probably won't affect performance to any noticeable level, its all about profit now, not lastability like original hy gains,avanti's and antenna specialists were all about, much the same as interceptor i10k, might last longer but won't noticeably outperform any other 5/8 wave, would need to use really pish poor materials to do that and even then it still wouldn't be vastly noticeable, just like sirio antennas are barely noticeable from the antennas they cloned but ain't as strong, about the only noticeable difference you'll find of any original antennas compared to todays clones, the one exception may be the original vector 4000 a 5/8 wave over a 1/4 wave colinear,as opposed to avanti's halfwave over 1/4 wave colinear, but was weak as fuck, but sirio have returned to the original avanti 1/2 over 1/4 wave colinear, a small sacrifice on performance to give slightly more strength, I think most antenna companies cloning their earlier or others antennas will do exactly the same, the price of aluminium dictates that, not choice.

Cb'ers want quality at low prices, you can only have one or the other, quality costs so manufacturers have to cut corners to sell at a price they reckon the market will pay, as they still work as well people don't complain until they break easier, price we pay for so many cheapskates in the hobby, can't blame the manufacturers, they are only trying to provide what people will pay for and their source material cost has went through the roof, so they are probably making less profit now than they were when it was financially viable to use the best quality materials,

blame the "incompetant" (really, very competent bankers who acted deliberately) bankers who deliberately put the world in recession so they could buy up property cheap or reclaim it from people no longer able to meet mortgage payments and face repossesion so these shady banking cartels of German ancestry like Rothschild (Red Shield in German) can make a killing reselling them when they decide to end the recession they started, its all about property and profit, nothing else, these people are so greedy they don't care who they hurt in the process of reaping it in, The Royal dynasties of Europe and Oil Dynasties of the States are in it up to their necks too. That's the reality.
 
at some point i was going to throw this into the discussion:

this really boils down to the comparison of an old 5/8th wave to a new 5/8th wave and barring the caveats that jazzsinger mentioned above i would think that performance should be generally the same...

other differences that one may see being related to each individuals height, installation, terrain, obstructions and other pertinent variables related to such.


not including dx which can add and detract to the signal strength and quality.
 
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at some point i was going to throw this into the discussion:

this really boils down to the comparison of an old 5/8th wave to a new 5/8th wave and barring the caveats that jazzsinger mentioned above i would think that performance should be generally the same...

other differences that one may see being related to each individuals height, installation, terrain, obstructins and other pertinent variables related to such.


not including dx which can add and detract to the signal strength and quality.

I would also be interested to know the overall quality of the new version
(materials used, construction) compared to the old version.
 
Hey unit 194 , did u order the penatrator from eBay? Somebody from New Jersey bought two antennas from him.

No I didn't because I'm still undecided about purchasing one.

And if I did purchase one which version (original or new) should I purchase?

Also, the shipping cost from the Netherlands to the U.S. can be a bit pricey.
 
agreed ! I personally would like to buy one of the hand made antennas. Theirs a member on this forum , don't remember the name, who makes best built for 5/8th's on the market. The antenna can handle the strongest winds and it's a top performer. You pay for what you get. The question is how much to spend for your needs. How much power your throwing out, 5, 1500, or 5000 watts. T.V.I. issues and easy tuning. I prefer metal over fiberglass. You definitely can not go wrong with the penatrator! I have the old one and it worked great for me. I dont have it up, planning to move.
 
Knew a guy who put 25k average on a bird through a interceptor I-25k. He did it for years without a single hiccup.

Have never heard of another omni being able to handle that kind of power. Especially without causing any tvi.
 
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Jay in the Mojave http://www.a1antennas.com/
He builds the I-10K 5/8`s antenna, it is indeed built very strong, mine has been in the air for years with no problems.
73
Jeff

He had a version that could handle 25,000 watts as well. As I recall, the only difference between that and the I-10k was the connector for the feedline... He may still sell it.

Also, TVI is highly misunderstood. It is not an antennas fault that you have TVI. The antenna simply transmits the signal that it is fed to it. While it is true that some antennas are more resistant due to their natures, the cause of the problem that is TVI lies elsewhere. Fix the problem and no matter which antenna you use you won't have an issue...


The DB
 
Very true, but im sure the lack of common mode current with the hairpin match helps a bit as well.

Your right, I believe the only difference between the I-10k and the I-25k was the addition of a 7/16 din for the 25k over a so-239 for the 10k. And also a slightly different connector bracket.

A beautiful american made antenna





He had a version that could handle 25,000 watts as well. As I recall, the only difference between that and the I-10k was the connector for the feedline... He may still sell it.

Also, TVI is highly misunderstood. It is not an antennas fault that you have TVI. The antenna simply transmits the signal that it is fed to it. While it is true that some antennas are more resistant due to their natures, the cause of the problem that is TVI lies elsewhere. Fix the problem and no matter which antenna you use you won't have an issue...


The DB
 
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