This is long but is an interesting response written to the FCC regarding a received NAL.
http://n9oglvoice.blogspot.com/2008/02/w6wbj.html
http://n9oglvoice.blogspot.com/2008/02/w6wbj.html
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Interesting Response to FCC
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This is a interesting response to the FCC. http://www.ki6ky.com/ayj.htm
1110 Pleasant Valley Road
Diamond Springs, California 95619
(530) 622-3386
23:22:20
W. Riley Hollingsworth, K4ZDH
Special Counsel, Enforcement Bureau
Federal Communications Commission
Gettysburg, PA 17325-7245
Re: Response to your August 21, 2000 Warning Notice concerning
Amateur Radio Station N6AYJ
Dear Mr. Hollingsworth:
Please allow this letter to serve as my written response to your August 21, 2000 Warning Notice concerning my amateur radio operations on 3820, 3830 and 3857 khz. Kindly also let it confirm that I did speak to you by telephone on August 28, 2000 but that we could not agree in that conversation about how to resolve the Warning Notice, so we agreed that I would file this written response.
Your said Warning Notice is hereby both factually and legally challenged.
Before I begin outlining the factual and legal deficiencies of your Warning Notice, let me mention a couple of preliminary matters. First, since we are both apparently pretty hard-core hams, and hams are supposed to be friendly, I am going to write this letter on a first-name basis, and you may hereafter use my first name ("Bill") in both written and oral communications with me, if you desire. The second thing is that I feel your Warning Notice is a really lousy way to treat a taxpayer! I mean, jeez, Riley, I'm paying your salary! I pay a whole bunch of money in taxes, and it doesn't come easily! I can't really support my family the way I would like to be able to do, due to my large federal tax load, and for some reason none of your buddy Al Gore's proposed "targeted tax cuts" are targeted at me. So this Warning Notice is the thanks I get for all the taxes I pay? Riley, I must advise you that you guys in the Enforcement Bureau are really starting to look like a bunch of ingrates to me at this point!
Here's the thing, Riley: I'm a trendsetter, and a lot of people listen to my opinions. Also, my wife and kids tend to be trendsetters, too. For example, my son Ben (KB6ZD) is a college professor. (He never gets on the ham radio anymore because he thinks it's too dumb, and I'm really beginning to agree with him, after receiving your Warning Notice!) The real question is, do you want people like us to be friends or enemies of your agency, and of the federal government? Riley, your warning notice was really a dumb move, politically! It ranks right up there with the time that Bill Clinton had me audited by the IRS after I told him he should resign over his affair with Monica Lewinsky. Sure, the govern-ment made me pay some more taxes in a very unfair fashion, but at what price to public loyalty? Do you know how many people I educated about how to resist the IRS after that? Do you know how many college students heard the story from my son, and now will probably distrust the government forever as a result? Is that what you're trying to accomplish here? Did you know that two California congressmen voted in favor of impeachment, largely because I proved to them that Clinton had me audited in retaliation for urging him to resign? Doesn't the federal government have enough problems about its credibility with the public without your taking such a stupid action? So why are you doing things like this, Riley? In other words, do you want the public to be loyal to the federal government, or not? You're acting exactly like you are trying to breed disloyal citizens or something! So knock it off already!
Riley, you may remember our previous e-mail exchange, wherein I warned you about becoming "Mr. Enforcement" and doing the bidding of the ham radio "brownshirts", but apparently you have ignored my correspondence because that is exactly what you're doing with my Warning Notice! And now I see that the Com-mis-sion is still up to its old tricks: lying about the facts, and trying to claim it has enforcement powers it does not have, because you want to be able to demonstrate "instant action" to the brownshirts, and find it too hard and time-consuming to do your job properly and in a legal fashion, and you find it too difficult to explain to the brownshirts why you can't just summarily run anybody they disagree with off the air. I'm rather disappointed in you, Riley, because I really thought you were too sophisticated, and too familiar with my previous dealings with your agency, to try to pull that kind of shit. Riley, hasn't anybody in your office told you that Billy Crowell is no pushover? I think you should pull my file and read about my prior encounters with the Commission. I won them all! Every single one! I'll tell you about them later in this Response, by way of explaining why I have my rather jaundiced view of the Commission's amateur enforcement efforts over the years.
And now I see from your curriculum vitae that you are a big buddy of Al Gore, and I'm really beginning to wonder about you, Riley! In order for you to understand a little better where I am coming from, I guess I should tell you that about the most upsetting experience I've had in years was when I had to explain to my (then) 8-year-old daughter what oral sex was because we couldn't avoid Bill and Monica on TV. I really would have liked to have waited until she was older before I had to tell her what it meant, you know? Now, can I blame anybody but Bill Clinton and your Democratic buddies for that? Check yourself out, my man! You're hanging out with the wrong crowd! Those Democrats will lie and say anything they need to say to get elected, and it's just a question of whether or not they can get enough stupid people to believe them in order to get elected! I mean, if the politics of your position is driving you crazy, and that's the reason you're acting so erratically and making so many mistakes in your enforce-ment actions, you could always get a job in private industry and get your head on straight. I've had many friends who formerly worked for the Commission and got out when the political bullshit got too heavy, and they're much happier now. And when you sink to issuing warning notices to good operators like me, then you are really just advertising the fact that you are probably just a miserable person, who's jealous of me because I'm having more fun on the ham radio than you are! So if you decide to remain in your position despite your apparent misery, then I conclude that it is self-imposed misery and I really resent your trying to bring me down to your miserable level, too, by sending me your Warning Notice!
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1110 Pleasant Valley Road
Diamond Springs, California 95619
(530) 622-3386
23:22:20
W. Riley Hollingsworth, K4ZDH
Special Counsel, Enforcement Bureau
Federal Communications Commission
Gettysburg, PA 17325-7245
Re: Response to your August 21, 2000 Warning Notice concerning
Amateur Radio Station N6AYJ
Dear Mr. Hollingsworth:
Please allow this letter to serve as my written response to your August 21, 2000 Warning Notice concerning my amateur radio operations on 3820, 3830 and 3857 khz. Kindly also let it confirm that I did speak to you by telephone on August 28, 2000 but that we could not agree in that conversation about how to resolve the Warning Notice, so we agreed that I would file this written response.
Your said Warning Notice is hereby both factually and legally challenged.
Before I begin outlining the factual and legal deficiencies of your Warning Notice, let me mention a couple of preliminary matters. First, since we are both apparently pretty hard-core hams, and hams are supposed to be friendly, I am going to write this letter on a first-name basis, and you may hereafter use my first name ("Bill") in both written and oral communications with me, if you desire. The second thing is that I feel your Warning Notice is a really lousy way to treat a taxpayer! I mean, jeez, Riley, I'm paying your salary! I pay a whole bunch of money in taxes, and it doesn't come easily! I can't really support my family the way I would like to be able to do, due to my large federal tax load, and for some reason none of your buddy Al Gore's proposed "targeted tax cuts" are targeted at me. So this Warning Notice is the thanks I get for all the taxes I pay? Riley, I must advise you that you guys in the Enforcement Bureau are really starting to look like a bunch of ingrates to me at this point!
Here's the thing, Riley: I'm a trendsetter, and a lot of people listen to my opinions. Also, my wife and kids tend to be trendsetters, too. For example, my son Ben (KB6ZD) is a college professor. (He never gets on the ham radio anymore because he thinks it's too dumb, and I'm really beginning to agree with him, after receiving your Warning Notice!) The real question is, do you want people like us to be friends or enemies of your agency, and of the federal government? Riley, your warning notice was really a dumb move, politically! It ranks right up there with the time that Bill Clinton had me audited by the IRS after I told him he should resign over his affair with Monica Lewinsky. Sure, the govern-ment made me pay some more taxes in a very unfair fashion, but at what price to public loyalty? Do you know how many people I educated about how to resist the IRS after that? Do you know how many college students heard the story from my son, and now will probably distrust the government forever as a result? Is that what you're trying to accomplish here? Did you know that two California congressmen voted in favor of impeachment, largely because I proved to them that Clinton had me audited in retaliation for urging him to resign? Doesn't the federal government have enough problems about its credibility with the public without your taking such a stupid action? So why are you doing things like this, Riley? In other words, do you want the public to be loyal to the federal government, or not? You're acting exactly like you are trying to breed disloyal citizens or something! So knock it off already!
Riley, you may remember our previous e-mail exchange, wherein I warned you about becoming "Mr. Enforcement" and doing the bidding of the ham radio "brownshirts", but apparently you have ignored my correspondence because that is exactly what you're doing with my Warning Notice! And now I see that the Com-mis-sion is still up to its old tricks: lying about the facts, and trying to claim it has enforcement powers it does not have, because you want to be able to demonstrate "instant action" to the brownshirts, and find it too hard and time-consuming to do your job properly and in a legal fashion, and you find it too difficult to explain to the brownshirts why you can't just summarily run anybody they disagree with off the air. I'm rather disappointed in you, Riley, because I really thought you were too sophisticated, and too familiar with my previous dealings with your agency, to try to pull that kind of shit. Riley, hasn't anybody in your office told you that Billy Crowell is no pushover? I think you should pull my file and read about my prior encounters with the Commission. I won them all! Every single one! I'll tell you about them later in this Response, by way of explaining why I have my rather jaundiced view of the Commission's amateur enforcement efforts over the years.
And now I see from your curriculum vitae that you are a big buddy of Al Gore, and I'm really beginning to wonder about you, Riley! In order for you to understand a little better where I am coming from, I guess I should tell you that about the most upsetting experience I've had in years was when I had to explain to my (then) 8-year-old daughter what oral sex was because we couldn't avoid Bill and Monica on TV. I really would have liked to have waited until she was older before I had to tell her what it meant, you know? Now, can I blame anybody but Bill Clinton and your Democratic buddies for that? Check yourself out, my man! You're hanging out with the wrong crowd! Those Democrats will lie and say anything they need to say to get elected, and it's just a question of whether or not they can get enough stupid people to believe them in order to get elected! I mean, if the politics of your position is driving you crazy, and that's the reason you're acting so erratically and making so many mistakes in your enforce-ment actions, you could always get a job in private industry and get your head on straight. I've had many friends who formerly worked for the Commission and got out when the political bullshit got too heavy, and they're much happier now. And when you sink to issuing warning notices to good operators like me, then you are really just advertising the fact that you are probably just a miserable person, who's jealous of me because I'm having more fun on the ham radio than you are! So if you decide to remain in your position despite your apparent misery, then I conclude that it is self-imposed misery and I really resent your trying to bring me down to your miserable level, too, by sending me your Warning Notice!
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I saw that letter. The one I posted actually gets into FCC legal matters. It brought up some interesting legal questions.
This Bill is a lawyer and a HAM it should be interesting seeing him put the FCC in there place.
Wanna bet? He is just an a-hole with an attitude that thinks he can drag this out for years in the courts. His letter proves the FCC's point about him being of questionable character. I read the whole thing that was many,many pages long over on QRZ.com.My bet is he gets his way by dragging it out and the FCC gets their way in the end.
If he hadn't written the letter Marty posted and all you had to read was the one I had posted a link to I see some legal questions that may have merit . I agree the one Marty posted was a stupid self harming rant. But in the linked post above I see some good questions about some questionable legalities.
Of the two of them, wanna bet which takes longer to settle? On second thought, would you be surprised if ol'Riley wanted to push it, that second protest would turn into a charge of threatening an 'enforcement' officer? I think it was very 'nicely' done, but it's still an attempt at intimidation. In written form no less! I hope his 'son' ended up with more brains than 'dad' contributed.
Then again, they're both '6's... what can you say.
- 'Doc
Then again, they're both '6's... what can you say.
- 'Doc
This Bill is a lawyer and a HAM it should be interesting seeing him put the FCC in there place.
So have you not considered that Mr Hollingsworth is ALSO an attorney with at LEAST 20 years of communications law under his belt? VERY few people EVER managed to "put FCC in their place" since 1934! Just another blowhard with visions of "legendary" status dancing in his own mind.
CWM
I'v been listening to w6wbj (billy) and k6txh(steveO) for a long time,they have been on 80 meters causing trouble and giving amateur radio a bad rap.They are both a black eye to the ham radio community. Billy will go down first....bye bye Billy boy. SteveO will soon follow, Steve is a complete drunk. You can here them on 3740 most nites. Here is SteveO going nuts. BTW his nickname is "wingnut"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qQuIcQnzkE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qQuIcQnzkE
This is the post I wanted to link to. The other one is different-
http://n9oglvoice.blogspot.com/2008/02/update-from-last-post.html
http://n9oglvoice.blogspot.com/2008/02/update-from-last-post.html
I think the letter he sent to Riley that Marty posted will pretty well cook his goose. That was just plain stupid.
Does anyone know which other enforcement cases that this fellow speaks of so we can see the validity of the claims he makes of taking on the FCC and winning? or is he just whining?
He addressed the charges here-
http://n9oglvoice.blogspot.com/2008/...last-post.html
I only post the link because it is very long but an interesting read.
http://n9oglvoice.blogspot.com/2008/...last-post.html
I only post the link because it is very long but an interesting read.
:blink: Sure glad he is not my neighbor. I would hate to spend the rest of my life in prison if you know what I mean.