Started digging the hole yesterday, we got down about 3 ft and we hit something that was metal, not sure what it was, we could not go any further.. Here is a pic :
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This hole is 12 inches in diameter and 3ft deep, my friend poked through the piece of metal but we could not make out what it was, and it went across the entire bottom, so my friend dug a new hole about 2 feet away from this hole. We were able to go 4ft down with no obstructions this time.. I had some pipe delivered to the house from the plumbing supply house, it was a 3" 21 foot gas pipe and a 2" gas pipe.. My friends had a hard time lifting the 21 foot pipe because it had some serious weight to it.. After they stood it up in the hole, we all agreed that the 3" 21 foot gas pipe with a ham 4 rotor attached to it would not hold up even in 4 ft of concrete.. Just not going to trust it.. So I called the supply house and they are going to pick up those other 2 pipes and are delivering 3 10 foot section of 2" galvanized pipe. After all the talk about using the maco beam , I have decided to just use a ground plane.. Tomorrow my friends are going to set the first 10 foot 2" pipe into the hole with concrete and we have to wait for it to cure.. I have to run to home depot before they get home to get a 12" 4 ft concrete sleeve to sink into this hole. Then the other 2 sections will go up along with the antenna.. So I am going to sell the maco 103c that is brand new with the upgraded 5kw gamma match rod, along with the ham 4 rotor w/control box that was just rebuilt, with the mast adapter.. I will let everyone know when I get everything set and I am finally on the air.. Thanks to all who helped and the time we spent on this thread..... Hope to be up and running by next week..