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Don't beat around the bush, just tell us how you feel.
After servicing all three brands for more than a decade, I can say that seeing an Icom come in for service work was very rare. The few that did, usually had catastrophic failures that were initiated by problems outside of the Icom. Things like lightning, power surge or an amplifier that turned into a self sustaining oscillator, are what it typically took to take an Icom down.
I Can Only Monitor MY CALL SIGN coming back in those Pileups & that makes ME the WINNER! I know everyone can't have the BEST of the BEST but I have been Blessed with just that so I love BUSTING the PILEUPS while others just keep repeating themselves over & over again.While they keep calling I've already worked several more & looking for more.ICOM is the KING of Amateur radios & it's Good to be the KING!
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I feel that Yaesu should just stick to making antenna Rotors because they are Very Good & dependable.My G-800SDX is about 25 years old & still turning those Three Yagis with ease.(Mosley TA-53M,4 element 5 Band HF,M2 6M5X 5 element FOR 6 METERS,& Cushcraft 215WB,15 element 2 meter yagi) I am very very pleased with it even if it failed Today it's been a champ.
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and i read the illusive yaeso ft 2980 r box .humm made in the land of almost right CHINA while maintaining made in japan .says mic made in china n id bet whole thing built in china cept the stickon tags that are put in in japan thus making it made in japan
Welcome to the evolution of ham radio. This is why sticking to "vintage" equipment is probably best. "Brand new" equipment in this day and age, is a joke. There is no such thing as quality control. Everyone working for the manufacturers just want to get a paycheck. And 90% of those who work there lied about their qualifications to get the job. And of course, the manufacturer just wants to make money. And the end result........GARBAGE. If you investigate, you'll find that there are more failures and required modifications in all the latest radio equipment being produced now, than there ever was in what is referred to now as "vintage equipment". Not to mention that when something DOES go wrong, there are hardly ANY folks around who can even work on all their own "surface mounted" stuff anyway. So, the long and short of it is....buy brand new.....buy disposable. Buy vintage...buy it for life. As long as you have the technical skills and knowledge, slightly older equipment will never cause the frustration level created by having to tear open a brand new expensive radio to make sure it's done right. And it'll always get the job done too! After all....it's all about being heard, right? A reliable piece of "vintage" equipment, and..... A GOOD ANTENNA SYSTEM....will always get the job done for you, and minimize stress levels. No one wants to spend top dollar on a new rig to take it out of the box....and fix it.
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Yaesu also fully earns an F--- rating in selling service parts to custumers that are able and willing to fix their manufacturing defects. Can't even begin to get them to respond to any parts request by email. Found the ceramic filter needed to fix their junk VX-7R, on eBay for half the price and 1/10th the aggravation.
i have a 480r left to end my yaesu relationship. next saturday we got a tailgate hamfest n its gonna go bye bye.open it up n compared to other brands it looks like an electricians nightmare. im sure kenwood n icom has put out some crap but my new kenwood tm v 71 works great for now. new icom ic 2300 i got wednesday so far is ok too. programming both are a breeze. even my htx 212 i bought my first time around is still going but needs new mic cord like all rs
ICOM vs Yaesu, I have 7300 and a 891, I use both and both work. 891 is a hell of a lot of radio for the money. It essentially does what the 7300 does, for myself anyway, not a big scope user here I use the organic scopes on side of my head. Slightly different RX of course... ICOM bleed sounds worse by 30pct... but it is also more "hi fi" if such term can be used.. the lowest signals fight less against the low internal noise of the ICOM.
ICOM clarity of rx sound is a blessing on a very quiet band, the weak S0-S2 signal rx comes through very clear and defined. However it is a curse when another station rocks up 3-6kHz away (which is very very often) as that bleed is also very clear and sharp sounding, so clear it obscures weak signals in a bad way. Sharp edge filters unusable here, piercing horrid whistling sound is not acceptable to me.
However I still read the the signals through the 891 higher perceived noise no problem.
If I had to live with only the 891 I would still be quite happy, so far.
Reliability is yet to be experienced both radios less than 1 year old. I like that Yaeasu puts 200 Watts of transistor capability there for the 100W output.. whereas ICOM put their underrated cost cutting finals in - 140W of transistor capability for 100W.
Something is set up either wrongly or by design on the ICOM 7300 audio stages to TX stages. You cannot apply even 5pct of the processing ICOM's very own manual suggests without ALC being in the unacceptable zone pretty much permanently.
(20dB compression is fantasy land without ALC end stop)
With the stock mic I am on 12pct mic gain, RF 100pct and Comp 2 and I still get 50pct peaks on the ALC.
If you use ICOM 7300 do you ignore your ALC and end stop it ? Is that the solution to get more compressed TX audio ?
I like both, neither perfect, but do remember the price difference is big.
ICOM clarity of rx sound is a blessing on a very quiet band, the weak S0-S2 signal rx comes through very clear and defined. However it is a curse when another station rocks up 3-6kHz away (which is very very often) as that bleed is also very clear and sharp sounding, so clear it obscures weak signals in a bad way. Sharp edge filters unusable here, piercing horrid whistling sound is not acceptable to me.
However I still read the the signals through the 891 higher perceived noise no problem.
If I had to live with only the 891 I would still be quite happy, so far.
Reliability is yet to be experienced both radios less than 1 year old. I like that Yaeasu puts 200 Watts of transistor capability there for the 100W output.. whereas ICOM put their underrated cost cutting finals in - 140W of transistor capability for 100W.
Something is set up either wrongly or by design on the ICOM 7300 audio stages to TX stages. You cannot apply even 5pct of the processing ICOM's very own manual suggests without ALC being in the unacceptable zone pretty much permanently.
(20dB compression is fantasy land without ALC end stop)
With the stock mic I am on 12pct mic gain, RF 100pct and Comp 2 and I still get 50pct peaks on the ALC.
If you use ICOM 7300 do you ignore your ALC and end stop it ? Is that the solution to get more compressed TX audio ?
I like both, neither perfect, but do remember the price difference is big.
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Everyone has his preferences, i had Icoms Kenwoods and yeasu's.
They all had their lemons and bad batch of radio's.
Here i'm stuck with the FT100 23 years old still doing fine and quite abused.
FT847 with Collinss filters 23 years old abused like hell still doing as new, FT2000-D 200 watt radio that is what? 20 years old still does what it did fresh out of the box, the FT991A now as latest radio.
Icom q7 handheld, Kenwood TH-F7E handheld, battery going flat now.
All work as intended, so i have no beef with any brand.
Seems it just happpens i have more Yaesu radio's here doing what they should do.
Formerly had Yaesu FT221, FT225RD, Kenwood TS 430 line, Icom 706.
All used extensively.
They all had their lemons and bad batch of radio's.
Here i'm stuck with the FT100 23 years old still doing fine and quite abused.
FT847 with Collinss filters 23 years old abused like hell still doing as new, FT2000-D 200 watt radio that is what? 20 years old still does what it did fresh out of the box, the FT991A now as latest radio.
Icom q7 handheld, Kenwood TH-F7E handheld, battery going flat now.
All work as intended, so i have no beef with any brand.
Seems it just happpens i have more Yaesu radio's here doing what they should do.
Formerly had Yaesu FT221, FT225RD, Kenwood TS 430 line, Icom 706.
All used extensively.
You've identified the one problem that has been fairly consistent with Icom for many years. Their ALC leaves something to be desired and without adjustment, will destroy peak power, especially on AM.
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