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Off Limit Freq's
- Thread starter Jerry Grandstaff
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Happy_Hamer said:
AAAAAAAACK!!!!
:shock: Happy Hamer, SHAME on you You're REALLY trying to stir up something now. :shock: I am sure the USAF 'Mainsail' boys would LOVE that!!!!!!!!!!! "ANDREWS, ANDREWS, THIS HERE'S TH' ONE TARHEEL IN CENTRAL N'AWTH C'LINA, YA GOT AN OLE COPY, BREAK,BREAK!!!!" :shock: Can you imagine?
Now you've got me tickled!! CWM
hey, the bottom line is I dont give a damn where anyone talks, your on the internet, find where you can and cant talk legally
can you talk above and below legally? NO, unless your licensed.!
that was the question, NO you cannot
if you want to.......then go ahead, everyone has there take/spin on it but the bottom line is still NO, just dont tell people it is ok because noone else uses them anyhow, he asked LEGALLY.
"smoke blowing propaganda"? what does the LAW say, NO
Tune and talk where you like, if you dont like the way the law is written or feel its outdated, do as you please just dont whine and bitch if your busted.
Challenge yourself and give correct information, not your opinion unless it asked
can you talk above and below legally? NO, unless your licensed.!
that was the question, NO you cannot
if you want to.......then go ahead, everyone has there take/spin on it but the bottom line is still NO, just dont tell people it is ok because noone else uses them anyhow, he asked LEGALLY.
"smoke blowing propaganda"? what does the LAW say, NO
Tune and talk where you like, if you dont like the way the law is written or feel its outdated, do as you please just dont whine and bitch if your busted.
Challenge yourself and give correct information, not your opinion unless it asked
The reason you don't hear anyone on these frequencies is that the US has no treaties concerning these frequencies with other countries and therefore cannot put them to any good use for all the bleed over and direct communication on these frequencies by countries outside it's jurisdiction so this is alot of bunk and my rear end is closed to this sort of smoke blowing propaganda. <quote>
Don't be too sure about the treaties and agreements; there are more than you think!
There was an entire thread here devoted to the use of some of those frequencies and why they are used. One agency is Civil Air Patrol that DOES use certain frequencies in that list. It does not MATTER about international bleedover in that some of these frequencies are 'reliever' frequencies used for SHORT ranged communications in and around a perimeter. They relieve congestion on other HF and VHF circuits and spread out the load. One group of people can be assigned 5 watt radios to talk between the flight line and the aircraft dispatch. Another group can use these for talking between the incoming personnel intake and their assembly and assignment locations. Yet another uses it for message running between the communications shack and the incident commander. And, finally, another frequency can be assigned for 100 watt SSB to marshal ground mobiles who are working with aircraft in search grids. These mobiles can easily range out to 50 miles. The advantage is that it lightens the load on other HF resouces and separates aircraft and other mobiles who may be working in nearby grids. It also somewhat thwarts newshounds and scanner enthusiasts who may show up at a search site (this is illegal and may get you arrested) because their scanners usually won't decode AM and SSB.
Now if anyone thinks he can fool around on CAP's frequencies with abandon, just try it!!!! Especially around here! I will guarantee that in short order you will find yourself getting a knock on the door from the boys in the unmarked Chevy sedan! (FCC) It HAS happened around here and the CAP folks have ZERO tolerance for bandits on their frequencies whether they "actually" use them or not! And it does not matter. Just because an untrained, NON-knowledgable 11 Meter operator decides in his own mind that operating on "them
empty channels"is OK, it doesn't mean that the agencies who find bandits on their frequencies won't come after you, nor does it mean that this "self-appointed knowledge" is worth more than -20 cents in terms of the actual reasons these frequencies are assigned, reserved, and will be protected. Since the objectives of said frequency assignments and the activities they support are determined by the agencies in question and not civilians, the monkey will be on the backs of the interlopers to explain why they were caught "talkin' on them funny channels" during an actual search and rescue operation! :shock: Believe it or not, interfering with such operations is serious and will result in the perp being find THOUSANDS and even serving jail time! And, finally, some things have changed after 9/11, and radio matters are taken more seriously than they were before. Is it worth it? :twisted:
Don't be too sure about the treaties and agreements; there are more than you think!
There was an entire thread here devoted to the use of some of those frequencies and why they are used. One agency is Civil Air Patrol that DOES use certain frequencies in that list. It does not MATTER about international bleedover in that some of these frequencies are 'reliever' frequencies used for SHORT ranged communications in and around a perimeter. They relieve congestion on other HF and VHF circuits and spread out the load. One group of people can be assigned 5 watt radios to talk between the flight line and the aircraft dispatch. Another group can use these for talking between the incoming personnel intake and their assembly and assignment locations. Yet another uses it for message running between the communications shack and the incident commander. And, finally, another frequency can be assigned for 100 watt SSB to marshal ground mobiles who are working with aircraft in search grids. These mobiles can easily range out to 50 miles. The advantage is that it lightens the load on other HF resouces and separates aircraft and other mobiles who may be working in nearby grids. It also somewhat thwarts newshounds and scanner enthusiasts who may show up at a search site (this is illegal and may get you arrested) because their scanners usually won't decode AM and SSB.
Now if anyone thinks he can fool around on CAP's frequencies with abandon, just try it!!!! Especially around here! I will guarantee that in short order you will find yourself getting a knock on the door from the boys in the unmarked Chevy sedan! (FCC) It HAS happened around here and the CAP folks have ZERO tolerance for bandits on their frequencies whether they "actually" use them or not! And it does not matter. Just because an untrained, NON-knowledgable 11 Meter operator decides in his own mind that operating on "them
empty channels"is OK, it doesn't mean that the agencies who find bandits on their frequencies won't come after you, nor does it mean that this "self-appointed knowledge" is worth more than -20 cents in terms of the actual reasons these frequencies are assigned, reserved, and will be protected. Since the objectives of said frequency assignments and the activities they support are determined by the agencies in question and not civilians, the monkey will be on the backs of the interlopers to explain why they were caught "talkin' on them funny channels" during an actual search and rescue operation! :shock: Believe it or not, interfering with such operations is serious and will result in the perp being find THOUSANDS and even serving jail time! And, finally, some things have changed after 9/11, and radio matters are taken more seriously than they were before. Is it worth it? :twisted:
Wait nevermind, look at the SSN,were not going to get noticable improvement till after July of 2007, buy all those radios up
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loadstone said:
I thought they use Crown Victorias and Chevy Surburbans.
Don't matter to me anyway, I don't talk on them gay freqs anyway.[/quote]
The smart ones drive Chevys!
Seriously, there was a thread on 1 stop some time ago about a CB op where there was a couple of "strangers" in a black, unmarked Chevy sedan that surveilled the house for almost a week. Said they looked like the Blues Bros with fedora hats like the 1950's. Gov't tags in plain sight. When they made their move, they showed up with a warrant and a Chevy van with which they hauled away a s---pot full of CB radios and a linear amp the guy had remoted down to the basement. Took several guys, wheel dollies, and a hand truck to take the amp out to the truck. 73
CW,
NAW ,sometime we youngn's gotta respect are elders so we let you run on and on...We know how you retired folks take awhile to get rolling (since you will not use extra "HEAT" for more POWA)....and once you are on that roll 4 watts will burn strong ..... The best part is you will never tire from turning that blasted A-E selector band button...you don't use them.......
And just for info sake those dark tinted Gov't type "toys" up here are Explorers or Expeditions.....FAA and DOT are the Denalis' 8) 8)
Last thing,194.
Could we get that" trucker only channel" in triplicate say AM,19,23 and 7 :roll:
Snoope back quiet
NAW ,sometime we youngn's gotta respect are elders so we let you run on and on...We know how you retired folks take awhile to get rolling (since you will not use extra "HEAT" for more POWA)....and once you are on that roll 4 watts will burn strong .....
The best part is you will never tire from turning that blasted A-E selector band button...you don't use them.......And just for info sake those dark tinted Gov't type "toys" up here are Explorers or Expeditions.....FAA and DOT are the Denalis' 8) 8)
Last thing,194.
Could we get that" trucker only channel" in triplicate say AM,19,23 and 7 :roll:
Snoope back quiet
Has anyone heard activity from 138.0 to 144.0 mhz ? The info I have states it's for the military but I have never heard anything.
These are generally, air-to-air frequencies. If you ever go to an air show where the Blue Angels, or Thunder Birds perform, you will hear them in this range.
Rich
Rich
You can hear Air Guard down there if you have a unit near you. But they don't talk much. The difference in military comms is, they are taught to be as concise and direct as possible AND short! It's not like they are trying to "work Australia"
CWM
CWM
It's funny. Going over to the "dark side" is not just a CBer thing. Fact is, most hams (if not all hams) have a yearning desire to:
1) Play Led Zeppelin backwards
2) on 6995 or 7415 KHz
3) and run 3000 watts of beautiful AM
4) on Memorial day weekend
5) and call themselves "The Voice of Purvis" or something else just as stupid.
And yeah "Pump Up The Volume" was a killer movie!!
Real Pirate Radio...something the kiddies just dream about!! The current definition of "pirate radio" involves streaming audio over the internet...no rf required. *sigh*. :roll:
1) Play Led Zeppelin backwards
2) on 6995 or 7415 KHz
3) and run 3000 watts of beautiful AM
4) on Memorial day weekend
5) and call themselves "The Voice of Purvis" or something else just as stupid.
And yeah "Pump Up The Volume" was a killer movie!!
Real Pirate Radio...something the kiddies just dream about!! The current definition of "pirate radio" involves streaming audio over the internet...no rf required. *sigh*. :roll: