I would like to know which SIRIO base antenna is the best of the best for RX & TX... I see all these models gainmaster 827 ect but no one has done a side by side thread about which one is best?? SO WHICH ONE IS BEST??
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OK OK another SIRIO ???
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The best antenna is not the same for everyone. It depends on how much power you run and what kind of weather you need it to handle. Both the Gain Master and the Vector have the top spot with RX and TX signal. They both beat all of the other 5/8 wave ground planes by about 1 db in RX and TX. The Gain Master is easy to put together with no tuning required. It covers 10 and 11 meters, handles extreme weather with ease but only handles about 500 watts PEP. The Vector can handle more power, is harder to put together and does not handle extreme weather.
Whoa there, according to whose tests where did the Gainmaster beat every other 5/8 wave antenna??!!
Whoa there,....... lets not let any facts get in the way.
MANY antennas beat the Gainmaster, it just depends on the judgement criteria
"The best antenna is not the same for everyone."
That part is a 'given'. It's a fact because there are very few installation situations that are the same in even a few particulars, no two installations are ever the same. There are a huge number of variations. And you aren't even close to comparing what you are looking for in an antenna's ability, the 'criteria' you are using for that 'best'/'good'/'bad' rating. It's "different strokes for different folks", otherwise, why would manufacturers ever make more than just one antenna?
The particular antenna that works well for me in my situation may be terrible for you in your situation. It works the other way around too. So, you have to take a look at the differences between those two situations, try to figure out why they are different, and then 'correct' those differences to fit YOUR situation.
There is no -one- 'best' antenna for -every- set of circumstances. The name on that antenna doesn't matter a bit, they all follow the same requirements, which are user defined. I've found that my requirements change over time, probably will again too, which means that the 'best' antenna for my use will be different -again-. I think that's about as normal as it gets, and is just one of the problems with wanting the 'best' of everything. Oh well...
- 'Doc
That part is a 'given'. It's a fact because there are very few installation situations that are the same in even a few particulars, no two installations are ever the same. There are a huge number of variations. And you aren't even close to comparing what you are looking for in an antenna's ability, the 'criteria' you are using for that 'best'/'good'/'bad' rating. It's "different strokes for different folks", otherwise, why would manufacturers ever make more than just one antenna?
The particular antenna that works well for me in my situation may be terrible for you in your situation. It works the other way around too. So, you have to take a look at the differences between those two situations, try to figure out why they are different, and then 'correct' those differences to fit YOUR situation.
There is no -one- 'best' antenna for -every- set of circumstances. The name on that antenna doesn't matter a bit, they all follow the same requirements, which are user defined. I've found that my requirements change over time, probably will again too, which means that the 'best' antenna for my use will be different -again-. I think that's about as normal as it gets, and is just one of the problems with wanting the 'best' of everything. Oh well...
- 'Doc
Many antennas will beat the Gain-Master or the Vector, it's just that none of them will be single element vertical sticks. I read all the user reports and company adds for the Gain-Master and still wasn't convinced until I purchased my own and tested it. Nothing really matters as much as seeing it for myself.
I also had to check the Gain Master by Sirio out for myself.
Here are my signal reports at my location, comparing several different CB verticals. I agree with SW, but when I get flack about my comparisons being much too close to matter, I think that 'Doc is right also. All around I am really impressed with the GM and guys that are afraid to consider it due to its lower power issue and just discount it from their thinking...are just scared they might have to change their categorical mindset.
There is a lot more to like besides good performance in the really fine antenna.
View attachment Recap of Signal Reports #17-48 040811.pdf
Here are my signal reports at my location, comparing several different CB verticals. I agree with SW, but when I get flack about my comparisons being much too close to matter, I think that 'Doc is right also. All around I am really impressed with the GM and guys that are afraid to consider it due to its lower power issue and just discount it from their thinking...are just scared they might have to change their categorical mindset.
There is a lot more to like besides good performance in the really fine antenna.
View attachment Recap of Signal Reports #17-48 040811.pdf
Marconi, I think others are expecting too much of a change between any two vertical sticks. It seems people expect to see S units difference when the reality is closer to just a few db from the worst to the best. When you see a signal go from S-7 to S-7.5, it may seem too close to matter at this signal but try it at S-1. It is in the fringe area with extremely weak signals that these antennas with a compressed low angle radiation pattern make the difference.
this is why when i change antennas i have the other guy/s
shut off thier pre amp and turn down rf gain to halfway or until
they almost completely lose me.and i do the same.then
everyone confirms they hear me but text message me if they
see a s-unit increase.or if they lose me completely. then that
tells me a real change not depending on any s-unit meters.
seems to me by doing this if im going to see a change its
seen when the signal is low or nonexsistance.whern signalsd
get up around 6-7 they take alot more to get past this.just what
ive seen here from several types of radios cb/exports both.
now for the question about the sirio asntennas the gian master
seems to be really good but with lower pep. the 827 would probaly
be slightly less than the gain master but handle more power.rite now
seems no one has the gain master..hmmm . i guess there selling good
ok marconi after all your testing which one are you gonna use if you had to sell the rest?
For all around good use, simplicity of install, and no tuning required, the Gain Master is #1 in my book. You probably won't need more power with this one, and is very quiet in operations and the best control of TVI I've ever seen.
I think the price is a bit high.
If you just have to have an all metal antenna with more power capable, then the New Top One in my opinion is an excellent choice that is not getting much word out there, performs well at most heights if it is well in the clear, and has a small foot print even though it looks and acts very big, and it too is pretty much plug and play with no tuning required.
IMO the GM also works best when it is setup well in the clear of surrounding objects.
MY CHOICE IS THE GAIN MASTER.
maconi after reading your reviews and seeing videos to me
it seems thetop one is a close 2nd place.also when you tested
these two did you notice any tvi with the top one?
it seems thetop one is a close 2nd place.also when you tested
these two did you notice any tvi with the top one?