Proof that hams are allowed to use CB amps

[Pappas and Beer]

I mean how as a seller are you supposed to know where the buyer is ultimately going to use that foot warmer.

Exactly. Many (most?) amps are used outside the United States. You could be selling it to someone who is going to use it in Peru.

One final note back in the early 2000's Ebay would constantly delist any amp that by it's appearance could be a "CB amp." and threaten you with a suspension. So many legitimate 10 meter amps got the boot. Finally when Ebay became international the U.S. laws were difficult if not impossible to enforce. That is why you see China selling 11 meter amps all day long.

 

[Highway Man]

Did you explain to them that you're Elmer?
JK of course.
I seen a YouTube video where some ham bones were checking a bofeng for spectral purity quoting some rule/law that most likely would pertain.
Best of luck with your case

 

[snippits75]

One final note back in the early 2000's Ebay would constantly delist any amp that by it's appearance could be a "CB amp." and threaten you with a suspension. So many legitimate 10 meter amps got the boot. Finally when Ebay became international the U.S. laws were difficult if not impossible to enforce. That is why you see China selling 11 meter amps all day long.

Yup I remember when Ebay was doing that. I actually sold one before they took it down. They did not invalidate the sale. Just gave me a warning.

 

[Shockwave]

I had a dispute with eBay years ago when I listed a 1957 Johnson Valiant for sale. It was made before 11 meters was CB and it was still a ham band. They booted the listing and gave me an unjustified warning that I argued with them. The transmitter met FCC standards at the time of manufacture and was not modified. Their ignorance actually did me a favor since I still have the mint transmitter and it's worth more today.

 

[wildchild455]

My advise is to stay as away from ebay as you can we all know there are parts changers scammers that ebay loves to protect.

 

[Pappas and Beer]

I have bought and sold radio stuff and other stuff on ebay for decades. It's a calculated risk. Buying an amp that "may or may not be working" with no recourse seems downright foolish. Buying anything of value that may be dead with no rights to return seems too risky even for the lucky.

I've sold perfectly brand new in original box shoes on ebay and got a bad review even after begging the guy to give him his money back if he simply took down the bad review, keep the shoes, but he wanted the joy of a bad review more than his money back. Go figure. Like the world everywhere, there are flat out EVIL people on ebay that are willing to lose money just to get the pleasure of screwing you.

 

[Shadetree Mechanic]

I have bought and sold radio stuff and other stuff on ebay for decades. It's a calculated risk. Buying an amp that "may or may not be working" with no recourse seems downright foolish. Buying anything of value that may be dead with no rights to return seems too risky even for the lucky.

I've sold perfectly brand new in original box shoes on ebay and got a bad review even after begging the guy to give him his money back if he simply took down the bad review, keep the shoes, but he wanted the joy of a bad review more than his money back. Go figure. Like the world everywhere, there are flat out EVIL people on ebay that are willing to lose money just to get the pleasure of screwing you.

I learned that when I was 15 years old working at McDonald's. Working with the public sucks because some people you just can't please.

 

[Woody-202]

Not an amp story parse, but when I joined EB in '97 my 23ch stuff got pulled off auction because "it wasn't legal to sell them", which didn't last long because most of the EB listings was older stuff..

 

[kopcicle]

I had a Heathkit ar-15 sale pulled repeatedly ...

 

[Tallman]

I had a Heathkit ar-15 sale pulled repeatedly ...

I'll bet it had a 30 mega cycle magazine too.

 

[Slowmover]

I'll bet it had a 30 mega cycle magazine too.

With Super Steiner Radials

 

[AudioShockwav]

47 CFR § 97.315 - Certification of external RF power amplifiers.

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§ 97.315 Certification of external RF power amplifiers.
(a) Any external RF power amplifier (see § 2.815 of the FCC Rules) manufactured or imported for use at an amateur radio station must be certificated for use in the amateur service in accordance with subpart J of part 2 of the FCC Rules. No amplifier capable of operation below 144 MHz may be constructed or modified by a non-amateur service licensee without a grant of certification from the FCC.

(b) The requirement of paragraph (a) does not apply if one or more of the following conditions are met:

(1) The amplifier is constructed or modified by an amateur radio operator for use at an amateur station.

(2) The amplifier was manufactured before April 28, 1978, and has been issued a marketing waiver by the FCC, or the amplifier was purchased before April 28, 1978, by an amateur radio operator for use at that operator's station.

(3) The amplifier is sold to an amateur radio operator or to a dealer, the amplifier is purchased in used condition by a dealer, or the amplifier is sold to an amateur radio operator for use at that operator's station.

(c) Any external RF power amplifier appearing in the Commission's database as certificated for use in the amateur service may be marketed for use in the amateur service.

[71 FR 66465, Nov. 15, 2006
That's what I have found so far.

73
Jeff

 

[AudioShockwav]

Might want to PM Shoda and see what his response is.
He has had to deal with Flea Bay before.

73
Jeff

 

[Mudfoot]

47 CFR § 97.315 - Certification of external RF power amplifiers.

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§ 97.315 Certification of external RF power amplifiers.
(a) Any external RF power amplifier (see § 2.815 of the FCC Rules) manufactured or imported for use at an amateur radio station must be certificated for use in the amateur service in accordance with subpart J of part 2 of the FCC Rules. No amplifier capable of operation below 144 MHz may be constructed or modified by a non-amateur service licensee without a grant of certification from the FCC.

(b) The requirement of paragraph (a) does not apply if one or more of the following conditions are met:

(1) The amplifier is constructed or modified by an amateur radio operator for use at an amateur station.

(2) The amplifier was manufactured before April 28, 1978, and has been issued a marketing waiver by the FCC, or the amplifier was purchased before April 28, 1978, by an amateur radio operator for use at that operator's station.

(3) The amplifier is sold to an amateur radio operator or to a dealer, the amplifier is purchased in used condition by a dealer, or the amplifier is sold to an amateur radio operator for use at that operator's station.

(c) Any external RF power amplifier appearing in the Commission's database as certificated for use in the amateur service may be marketed for use in the amateur service.

[71 FR 66465, Nov. 15, 2006
That's what I have found so far.

73
Jeff

Just what I needed.

Thanks

 

[Big Kahuna]

Let us know if it works...would be great to have something we could use again and again when some bored loser decides to flag my listings. Ironic that many hams don't know the rules when it comes to difference between owning/using/selling amps or export radios and what is actually legal or not. I've seen posts on ham radio forums where incorrect info is thrown around like crazy.