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QRZ gets a Wakeup Call
- Thread starter Sonwatcher
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so by your logic its cool with you if anybody wants to come in your house at any time and hang out on your couch since after all its not really "your" house since the bank owns it and the government can take it at any time????
<<google "eminent domain" if youve never heard the term>>
or to put it another way all these undocumented illegal aliens in our country are A-ok since hey we dont own the whole country...the government owns an awful lot of it and can take anything they want
<again see "eminent domain">>
who am i to stop paco or achmed or whoever from coming here just because its NOT LEGAL??
you ever complain about illegal immigrants?? or people in this country who CANT speak english and dont even bother to trying to learn and FULLY expect you to learn their language yet are STILL in america ? or having to press "1" for english?
same thing my friend...they dont belong here but our government in all their infinite wisdom doesnt want to be bothered
a non-ham on 10M IS an illegal immigrant....do you see the analogy there??
youre right in that getting a ticket is not rocket science....so whats stopping people who want to talk on 10M from getting theirs???
thats all i'm trying to say
if you dont have a HAM ticket stay off of the HAM bands
i cannot fathom your logic in how hams wanting non-hams to stay off of the ham bands can possibly be construed as us thinking that we are "better" somehow than non-hams
maybe you would like to explain your reasoning behind this?
because i'm lost
and where did i say "lowly old cb'ers" ???my keyboard must be typing things that im not
nothing at all "wrong" with being a "cb'er" and i never said that there was....i still use 11M quite a bit....
all we're asking is for people to show a little respect by not "coming into our house" if they werent invited
ANYBODY is more than welcome on the bands if they get their "not rocket science" piece of paper that says they're allowed there
Because Amateur operators are governed by Part 97 of US Code that permits them to use equipment that is NOT permitted in other services such as 11 Meter CB (Part 95). They can even BUILD transmitters and assemble systems for their use while CBers are not to do that. The main issue is U S E A G E! Amateur equipment, for the most part, does NOT have to be certified (except it must meet certain minimum standards) so long as it is only used in the amateur service.As to the so-called "export" radios, it is the import, sales, advertising and marketing of such equipment that is against the law. When it is modified to use either on 11 Meters, or used for BOTH 10 and 11 Meters, THEN it becomes ILLEGAL!
The biggest issue hams have with them is hearing them bootlegging on 10 or 12 meters!! :thumbdown: :angry:
73
CWM
Wouldn't this also fall under "easily modified"? That's just looking at it from another angle...
I would wonder what the Hams think of the operators, in every other country, operating "illegally," bleeding over Ham frequencies (although operating legally in their country), they have no FCC license and are talking on "illegal" equipment, but I'll bet most Hams are all to glad to talk with them (DX anyone?).
I just throw this out there to make a point...you get upset over someone in the US making noise on "your" frequency, but its absolutely fine for a Ham to talk with someone in another country...same thing, they are taking "Ham" bandwidth illegally (according to the regulations).
It will be fairly easy for the FCC to track internet stuff...not much resources needed, put one person under their thumb to get a bunch of names, makes them look like they are meeting that quota. I, for one, saw this coming a while ago...I often wondered how long it would take...here's my answer...
Of course we all forget about Radioactive being busted for selling stuff over the internet...
Not at all. Easy to modify for MARS/CAP etc is NOT the same thing as having a 40 channel readout complete with the "A" channels programmed into it. THAT is what shows INTENT to operate on CB frequencies.
It's not so much the "bleedover" as it is the on frequency incursions into the ham bands. In case you did not know, ham bands are international allocations with slight differances in some ITU regions on a couple bands. 80m in Europe is an example of slight differances in bandwidth. It is also illegal for a ham to attempt to communicate with an unlicensed station inside the ham bands and it is also illegal for them to communicate with a station that is licensed but in another radio service inside the ham bands. An exception to this is during emergencies where a ham may communicate inside a ham band to the coast guard,navy etc.
Of course it is fine for a licensed ham to talk to someone in another country as long as that other "someone" is also a licensed ham. if you have no license you do not belong on ham frequencies just the same as if you have no drivers license you do not belong behind the wheel of a car.
They don't have an FCC license outside US jurisdiction. . They are licensed through their own entity. It is legal for a Ham to talk all over the world to a licensed Ham on the Ham bands . You are not allowed to talk to them if they do not have a callsign (license).
I sort of doubt if there are many countries in the world that don't have some method of licensing for amateur radio. No idea about a 'CB' type licensing, but probably. Even in countries that do not have a department/agency for this sort of thing, I would be willing to bet that there would be some way of doing it.
I honestly can't think of any country in the world that doesn't have some method of radio licensing.
- 'Doc
I honestly can't think of any country in the world that doesn't have some method of radio licensing.
- 'Doc
Maybe it's the lack of sleep but I don't quite follow you.ALL hams in ALL countries MUST be licensed by their respective government agencies. That is a requirement of the ITU,or,International Telecommunications Union.Each country may set their own requirements regarding the awarding of a license as long as it meets MINIMUM ITU requirements.All hams MUST be issued a valid callsign from an alpha-numeric base that is assigned to that particular country by the ITU.There is no such thing as a legal unlicensed ham in ANY country in the world.
That's correct Doc. See my note above. Even in the couple countries that forbid ham radio,like North Korea, there is still an agency that regulates and licenses radio communications.
The only thing remotely interesting in this is that QRZ thinks it shouldn't apply to them, whereas eBay, on the other hand should be held accountable.
And what's the difference? There isn't one.
And what's the difference? There isn't one.
I have a couple thoughts:
On EBay, a seller could sell something, like an amplifier, to someone in another country where they are legal, right? There are a lot of items that have an "illegal to use", which is different from "illegal to possess."
As a forum owner, you would be required to know everything being sale'd on your forum at any point in time and know what laws regulate what items...how would you know that about everything, all the time? For example, a linear being sold on an automotive forum, where there is little knowledge about said linear's legality.
Just other points of view...
On EBay, a seller could sell something, like an amplifier, to someone in another country where they are legal, right? There are a lot of items that have an "illegal to use", which is different from "illegal to possess."
As a forum owner, you would be required to know everything being sale'd on your forum at any point in time and know what laws regulate what items...how would you know that about everything, all the time? For example, a linear being sold on an automotive forum, where there is little knowledge about said linear's legality.
Just other points of view...
Kenwood, Yaesu and Icom among others do not manufacture CB radios. They are type accepted for ham radio use only. Same with the FT-101 it is manufactured as a ham radio.
gee, i dunno.... it does have "memory frequencies" ......just plug in your favorite CB freqs... and instant "channels" are there.
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