Radio Band Selections

[blkhwkdr]

I'm curious or for a better term, stupid, on what the band selector does on a export radio. I assume it allows different frequencies to be used besides 10 meters. If you were to buy a export radio, do they have to be "opened up" to use the A,B,C..etc channels or do they come already available to use right out of the box?

Thanks for not flaming me.

Doc

 

[BIONIC_TEXAN88]

I'm curious or for a better term, slow, on what the band selector does on a export radio. I assume it allows different frequencies to be used besides 10 meters. If you were to buy a export radio, do they have to be "opened up" to use the A,B,C..etc channels or do they come already available to use right out of the box?

Thanks for not flaming me.

Doc

an export radio will contain only 10m freqs. The band selector changes to a different set of 40 freqs within the 10m band.

after a conversion for 11m (cb band), one band will have the cb band and all the others (usually) will have 10m band (stay off them unless you have a proper license).

 

[Captain Kilowatt]

Actually one band position will have the regular CB channels and the others will have some 10m frequencies and some freeband frequencies that are either below CB channel one or between CB channel 40 and the lower end of 10m.

 

[blkhwkdr]

OK, thanks for the info. Just curious if I can use one of these for 10 meters. I have my Tech. I have no desire to modify it. If I wanted a CB, I'd just buy one. Is it illegal to buy a export? Now I'm confused if it comes already converted or not.

 

[BIONIC_TEXAN88]

OK, thanks for the info. Just curious if I can use one of these for 10 meters. I have my Tech. I have no desire to modify it. If I wanted a CB, I'd just buy one. Is it illegal to buy a export? Now I'm confused if it comes already converted or not.

depends on who you buy it from if its converted already or not. since you are a tech, it wouldnt be illegal for you to buy one I wouldnt think.

Since you are just a tech (like me), we only have privilegas on 28.3-28.5 ssb phone, correct me if I am wrong guys. I just got me a hr2510 and I like it so far.

 

[Carl]

depends on the export.

its illegal to sell them, there not hard to buy though. if you have one you may use it, just not sell it.

if you are looking for a new hr2510 they have not been made for years, many of the used radios will have been converted and many may not have been. you will just need to ask the seller when you are looking at the radio.

in unconverted form it would work just fine in your narrow 10m allocation of 28.300-28.500 usb. its also under your 200 watt pep power limit so your fine. you are not allowed to use am, or fm as you are a tech. upgrade to your general and you can.

ssb on an export is a afterthough at best, the best exports ssb is garbar next to a standard hf rig. buy an older icom or kenwood for around the same price and you will be amazed. i have picked up contacts many times over on my ts440s that none of my exports have ever heard.

 

[C W Morse]

I'm curious or for a better term, stupid, on what the band selector does on a export radio. I assume it allows different frequencies to be used besides 10 meters. If you were to buy a export radio, do they have to be "opened up" to use the A,B,C..etc channels or do they come already available to use right out of the box?

Thanks for not flaming me.

Doc

No flames. It would be easy to get curious about all those "bands" of 'channels'. The name "10 Meter 'Amateur' Radio" is a bit misleading, it is how builders hope to slip them under that name. Regular Amateur transcievers are not subject to certification in the usual sense for other services. So the builders like Ranger, Cobra, etc, try to claim their radios are "Amateur" transceivers, hoping to slip these in under that guise. FCC countered by placing these tranceivers on a list naming them by name, and specifically outlawing their sale. This was the only way they could really do that since the lawyers for the other companies could argue that since the "BIG THREE" amateur transcievers can easily be modified to operate on CB, THEIR radios can't be arbitrarily restricted with-OUT specifically naming them by name. Ranger successfully trumped FCC in a court case because of that fact a few years ago. It isn't so likely now! 8) since the Feds have made a bunch of fines STICK like Arkansas mud lately!

The alleged "export" radios scream loudly the market to which they are targeted; chrome faces, echo, talkback (yech!), and "extra" channels--all of which are against the law WRT CB radio. The easiest way to tell if a "CB" radio is illegal is to look at those chrome faces, and extra "channels". REAL Amateur radios do not have "channels"--not to be confused with "Memories. Channels are preprogrammed and tied to each channel marker; memories are random frequencies that may be programmed by the USER into memory positions for quick recall.

What really got the controversy started about "export" radios was when operators mistook the relatively "quiet" frequencies of 10 Meters as part of the non-existent "freeband" and began to operate these illegal sets on 28 MHZ. Of course, hams know that 28.000 to 28.300 MHZ is reserved for digital modes ONLY while the CB operators mostly know about voice operations (phone). So to them, the "beep-beep--beep" sound is 'just annoying noise'. Hearing illegal operators talking away on 10 Meters got the hams mad, and FCC started sending out letters, warnings, and fines

In a few years, these frequencies will be jumping with Morse and RTTY, annoying the illegals even more.


And so it goes--a tug of war between the legal and the illegal.
That's about it for the export radios.


73


CWM

 

[CDX8412]

Hi Blkhwkdr,

We had discussed using export radios on the 10 meter band in another thread
forum.worldwidedx.com/viewtopic.php?t=16898

In short, one of our members asked the FCC about using them on the ham bands (with an appropriate license of course) and the word from the FCC was, go right ahead and use them.

One thing to keep in mind...
HF is not "channelized" (ok, except for 60 meters), so if you get a Connex or Galaxy, it can be a pain to tune (these radios reaaly are just high power CBs). The exports with a VFO are better for 10 meter use, like the Ranger 2950, Uniden/President HR-2510 and Magnum 257.

From many posts on different forums, it appears that the "marketing" of these radios is illegal, meaning you cannot sell several or hundreds to the public (that would be deemed "marketing"), but as a ham, you could buy or sell one to another ham.

10 meters has been opening over the past few weeks, so whatever it takes to get on and enjoy your privileges...go for it.

When you upgrade to general, then you will be looking for an HF rig to work all the HF bands, but that inexpensive 10 meter rig makes a fine mobile for some 10 meter fun while sitting in traffic.

 

[blkhwkdr]

Thanks so much for the awesome information! Now I can share with some of the locals who had the same question as I did.

Doc