Getting to all of that in the next post... like I said, we're handling one thing at a time. But remember, even after the chokes, you have RF bypass caps, and also the wirewound resistors are inductive, and act as chokes themselves.
Also, I want to make it very clear by what I meant, I think something I said was misunderstood..... if you read my previous post closely, I mentioned:
"The ONLY thing that would effect SWR in, or out, in an arrangement like this, is that if the bias supply changes, it can and will affect the input and output impedance of the transistors a little, which would cause the INPUT SWR to change a bit. It would also detune the output a little as well."
When I said "in an arrangement like this" I was referring to the bias circuit, and what I meant is, that everyone blaming the bias circuit for the input and output SWR issues is a long shot, and while it CAN affect the input and output impedances, it is, as I previously mentioned, a little change.
Bias in a high level stage like this will have very little effect on VSWR as you mention since the RF drive is already enough to forward bias the transistors to the point where impedance won't change much between class AB or class C. Oscillations can drive the input and output VSWR well into the red.
Or worded yet another way would be: In a longshot, if the bias supply failed, it is not the main cause, the end all, be all of the issues, so please quit randomly changing wirewound resistors and chokes trying to solve the issue.
You might want to disconnect R21 and R28 to shut the contaminated bias down and test your theory. I should have figured this out years ago because when the RF actually burns open the 10 uh choke, the keying circuit stops working. The interesting part is you can manually engage the relay without the high VSWR problem because that shuts the bias off just like lifting the two resistors will.
We also established that these devices have very little gain, if any at 54Mhz, and even less on odd order harmonics.
If you're talking about the finals, it is worth noting that the 2SC2879 only has a slight reduction in gain at 54 Mhz. It behaves very much like an MRF-492 on VHF lowband. I dropped four 2SC2879's in and old Motorola Micor crystaled up on 6 meters and it's been making 250 watts carrier with no problem since 2004.
Oh one more thing... you said that the bias is tied right to the input. Once again, not really. You have to look at the path. It has to go through the choke, then the resistor, 25 wirewound in this case, the leads that have ferrite over them, the input transformer which the way it is set up acts like a choke itself, also a lot of it is shunted via a bypass cap, and what is left over still has a 1.6 ohm resistor, which is part of the divider, and two 10 ohm resistors at the base of each transistor.
Even with all that filtering, at least 25% of these amplifiers still fail to run unconditionally stable because it's not good enough to remove 99.9% of the output RF from the input side. Any small changes in load reactance can easily shift the amp back into a condition where it will oscillate.
When you said that poor isolation is the cause of self oscillation, I would say...yes and no... meaning that you WANT a small amount of feedback, but negative feedback. Old solid state amplifiers would actually purposely take a small lead, insulated and wrap it around the input lead. This was tied to part of the ouput circuit, and sometimes 180 degrees out of phase. Crazy right? Not really. It was to stop self oscillation.
The key here is in these cases they ONLY add negative feedback by choosing a value of cap that will cause the 180 degree phase shift between current and voltage. It's the same principle as neutralizing a tube amp and never applies the positive feedback we see in this circuit.
But on this design, it does have negative feedback. Also, weather on purpose or on mistake, RF is routed through the power switch, so once again, purposely, or accidentally because they are routed closely, you get some feedback there. Also the 330pf capacitors help with any out of band oscillations as well.
Even if you push the amplifier near class A, where small signal gain will increase substantially, oscillation isn't an issue, unless something else is wrong.
But all of this can be verified with a spectrum analysis and sweep for in band spurs, oscillations, and while we are at it, check IMD levels (also in band) then check 3rd order harmonic levels.
I've already confirmed the problem in these amps is related to oscillations and have seen them on the spectrum analyzer and scope as described. It just took me until recently to figure out the cause looking at the schematic. IMD and 3rd order harmonics suck because they don't run the device at 60 watts output where the specs are good.
Ok, going back to the bias. I agree 100% that we need to change this. And we will...we are getting to that. We will use the "contaminated" bias supply to power the relay's coil, and use RF bypassing for good measure, since wiring the second relay in parallel with the other relay's coil will cause too much current across the keying transistor.
The 2N2907A keying transistor can support 600 ma of drive and be loaded down to 20 ohms at 12 volts. The 2 relay coils and meter light will still be well above 200 ohms.
But first, we are going to correct the heart of the issue, and that is improper impedance matching.
More tomorrow.
Adding a tuned input or output circuit may hide the problem since they are narrow band and could reject the oscillation frequency if it were far enough away from the fundamental frequency. If the circuit were designed correctly it would not need any of this to run stable although it would improve spectral purity and efficiency.