As far as quality goes, they are absolutely heavy duty and solid, built like a tank. Why i would not recommend them for most people is 1. In the end after you buy all the filler plates, brackets, mounts etc it ends up being VERY expensive. My $200 console ended up being $400 in the end. And i have a small one. 2. All the brackets for equipment are made for commercial radio and siren systems. These radios are all small so it is extremely difficult to find brackets that fit bigger cb/amateur gear. So what ends up happening is you have to measure you gear, use thier bracket measure search and hope they have one. 9 out of ten times the brackets that fit are discontinued or they just dont have them. They will not custom make you a single bracket either, only bulk orders of like 100 or more. Also because of the small radio size of commercial gear, the consoles are all 8" rail to rail so a normal size cb with the mounting brackets installed will not fit into the console. 148gtl, 2950dx, 959, etc, all your full sized cb radios. 7 1/4" is the widest that will fit, so your 29ltd, hr2510, tre797, dx86v etc. 3. If you do find a bracket, the wait time to get it is 1 to 2 months. they would not tell me why it takes so long. So in the end its alot of searching, waiting, disappointment and money. This is my experience with havis only, i cant speak for jotto or the others. They may be different.