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Traffic Cameras.


my local (small town) installed them last summer at both of our towns stoplights (see, I told ya it was a small town).

anyway, after about a week, some civic minded resident took them down,..... with a shotgun:blink:
 
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Lol

Hopefully this case can gain traction and do something about these speed traps. I still have many cop friends from working Fire/EMS before I retired. Several have told me that they've been instructed to write more tickets. Seems that general funds are running low.
 
I just don't understand people.
It is against the law to disobey an automatic traffic controlling device.
It is for peoples safety.
It reduces the number of people that are hurt or that can be killed.
The people that don't concern themselves with the number of red lights they can run don't concerm themselves with the number of red-light cameras.
It is not a challenge to stop your vehicle before the demarkation line before the light turns red.
Even a six-year-old-mentally-retarded-quadrapalegic girl can command that function.
It is just plain simple; STOP AT RED LIGHTS.
People that are opposed to these cameras are the kind of people that could be catagorized as 'evil'.
If you want to disregard other peoples safety for your own self-indulgence of self-importance then you sir, are related evil to.
Do you want to be the person that decides you don't have time to stop at a red light and then because of your actions you kill someones child as a result.
(I consider carelessness and selfishness as related to evil if that person knows that it can cause harm to other people )
 
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I am an evil person I guess. I'm evil because I don't like the government being able to prosecute for a crime when no witness is present to observe the crime. I'm evil because I think that personal responsibility should be more important than government intervention.
 
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I spent a little time in South Korea. It's a free for all red, yellow, or green.

I have a buddy in Houston that rigged a 10-speed rear brake cable to his rear tag. Mounted the tag on hinges and had a release on the cable by his e-brake. Unclip the release and blow through intersections like in Mexico. Crazy. He never got a single ticket. The powers to be think its cheaper to put up cameras and not have to have a warm body enforce the law. ...wonder where the cameras are made at?
 
People that give too much power to government on any level are evil.

I agree, but maybe we are talking about two different things.
If the cameras are used only for their intended purpose then I don't mind as long as it reduces the number of people disobeying red lights and reduces the number of accidents and subsequently the number of people that are hurt.
Maybe I should have said "People that are opposed to these cameras because they routinely run red lights are related to evil."
After all, in the example given, it is a 105$ ticket, and if it takes 3 or 5 of them to get you to stop running red lights then I think it is an effective tool to reduce accidents and harm and injury to innocent people; And to that I say "BRAVO".
Just stop at the red light and they won't need the damn cameras. ( it ain't rocket science, it's very simple, just stop at the damn red light, is that really to much to ask of a person so that it will be safer for the rest of us, that would not even consider it an option to run a red light and if you must run the light then just pay the damn ticket )

But on the other hand I agree with what you are saying.
I don't want to get involved in an argument so I will post no more in this thread.
I am not in opposition to how you are thinking but I do think that we might be talking about two different things here.
I am talking about red light cameras and you are talking about an evil and corrupt government, maybe they can be related but maybe not always.
 
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I agree, but maybe we are talking about two different things.
Six to one; half 'dozen to the other.
If the cameras are used only for their intended purpose then I don't mind as long as it reduces the number of people disobeying red lights and reduces the number of accidents and subsequently the number of people that are hurt.
Maybe I should have said "People that are opposed to these cameras because they routinely run red lights are related to evil."

The news story is about speed cameras. Those have been found illegal in a few states. The problem with red light cameras is, if you allow them, you have to allow speed cameras.

People that run red lights on purpose are asses. Pure and simple. Nothing can justify that.

England is the perfect example of abuse of power with regard to the speed camera. They have 70 mph speed limits. They have a ton of speed cameras. They will lower the speed limit in areas with the cameras for weather or construction when neither exists. Then when people complain they say "Surely you don't want people hurting themselves in bad weather, or killing a road worker do you?"
 
The news story is about speed cameras. Those have been found illegal in a few states. The problem with red light cameras is, if you allow them, you have to allow speed cameras.

People that run red lights on purpose are asses. Pure and simple. Nothing can justify that.

England is the perfect example of abuse of power with regard to the speed camera. They have 70 mph speed limits. They have a ton of speed cameras. They will lower the speed limit in areas with the cameras for weather or construction when neither exists. Then when people complain they say "Surely you don't want people hurting themselves in bad weather, or killing a road worker do you?"

I understand what you are saying and I agree.
It pisses me off too.
Maybe what I was really talking about is bad people.
Maybe I was not really talking about cameras, but the subject gave me an opportunity to vent and express how I feel about certain kinds of people.
My appologies if we have gotten off on the wrong foot here.
But I must tell you, and not for the purpose of continuing this apparent contention is, that I have no problem with obeying the speed limit and would also very much appreciate if others would obey the posted speed.
 
I understand what you are saying and I agree.
It pisses me off too.
Maybe what I was really talking about is bad people.
Maybe I was not really talking about cameras, but the subject gave me an opportunity to vent and express how I feel about certain kinds of people.
My appologies if we have gotten off on the wrong foot here.

It's all good. We both agree about certain people.
 
always try to observe traffic laws myself,

but have you ever noticed that when you are in no hurry just observing the speed limit, it seems every body else is late
and
when you are in a hurry and trying to get somewhere as quick as possible, you always run into those that are in no hurry at all.

why is that?

:whistle:
 
always try to observe traffic laws myself,

but have you ever noticed that when you are in no hurry just observing the speed limit, it seems every body else is late
and
when you are in a hurry and trying to get somewhere as quick as possible, you always run into those that are in no hurry at all.

why is that?

:whistle:

It's that bastard Murphy.
 
In reality, it's us who give Murphy's Law relevance. When life goes well, little is made of it. After all, we expect that things should work out in our favor. But when things go badly, we look for reasons.
 
I have to agree with Radiooman 100%. People in general like to see just how much they can get away with especially when nobody is watching or they think nobody is watching. There are even those who think it is all right to break the law (whatever that law is) as long as they do not get caught and they object to situations where they cannot see who it is that can see them either directly or via cameras. Some even think it is a violation of their rights to be caught on camera doing something they shouldn't be doing in the first place. A lot of those are the very same people that have security cameras installed at home to catch others doing something that they shouldn't be doing to them. In the end it all boils down to taking responsibility for your own actions. Be sneaky and break the law and get caught anyway? Deal with it. Just because because a real person did not see you breaking the law does not mean that no law was broken.
 

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