Traffic Cameras.

[2RT307]

I can agree with having them to deter blatant running of red lights. I used to see that in other towns other than my own, and it was REALLY bad. So bad that if you were smart, you would not take off at the green light until you were sure some jackwagon wasn't going to come blasting through the intersection on a red light.

However, many times these are just a revenue generator, as the lights are purposely set to have a very short caution. Many people get caught here as the speed limit is 45, and there is not enough time to stop before the intersection, and the light turns yellow just as they hit the intersection. They then get their picture taken, video has been recorded, and a ticket is automatically sent. Most drivers have no intention to run a red light, and it's not really a fair shake.



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RT307

 

[Captain Kilowatt]

You should try driving in Montreal or Quebec City. If you sit at a red light traffic behind you will blown horns and give you the finger while yelling at you if you just sit there and wait for it to turn green. Their idea is if there is no cross traffic then it's OK to blow a red light. It must be a french thing.

 

[Mudfoot]

http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=13925887

 

[Mudfoot]

I try to obey all traffic laws. I don't like throwing money away on a ticket. At least if a cop writes you a ticket you can question him in court. The camera has no witness to cross examine.

Some towns have good intentions with the installation of these devices. I think most enjoy the cash flow they generate.

Unless you've never sped, accidentally ran a light, made an illegal lane change, failed to yield, texted, had a buzz, went left of center, no assured clear distance, blah blah blah. Unless you drive absolutely perfectly and never once in your life violated any traffic laws, then your not allowed to use the word EVIL.

Such a powerful and hurtful word to direct towards someone you don't know.

 

[Captain Kilowatt]

Red-Light Camera Backlash: Are They Causing Accidents? - ABC News

One thing I find interesting about that link.

"The final argument in the debate in Los Angeles may have already been decided by the courts. The courts have ruled that violations caught on a photo are unenforceable since there is no live witness to testify against an alleged offender."

Depending on how that was actually worded I wonder if that can be expanded to exclude ALL video surveillance whether a series of still images or full motion video as well. What about motion activated security cameras? Food for thought.

 

[Mudfoot]

Never thought of it like that. Now that would be something.

 

[KingCobra_CDX882]

I just don't understand people.
It is against the law to disobey an automatic traffic controlling device.
It is for peoples safety.
It reduces the number of people that are hurt or that can be killed.
The people that don't concern themselves with the number of red lights they can run don't concerm themselves with the number of red-light cameras.
It is not a challenge to stop your vehicle before the demarkation line before the light turns red.
Even a six-year-old-mentally-retarded-quadrapalegic girl can command that function.
It is just plain simple; STOP AT RED LIGHTS.
People that are opposed to these cameras are the kind of people that could be catagorized as 'evil'.
If you want to disregard other peoples safety for your own self-indulgence of self-importance then you sir, are related evil to.
Do you want to be the person that decides you don't have time to stop at a red light and then because of your actions you kill someones child as a result.
(I consider carelessness and selfishness as related to evil if that person knows that it can cause harm to other people )

Although Good Points and Tre when used Properly..
The Issue is more the Abuse of use in these systems

 

[KingCobra_CDX882]

One thing I find interesting about that link.

"The final argument in the debate in Los Angeles may have already been decided by the courts. The courts have ruled that violations caught on a photo are unenforceable since there is no live witness to testify against an alleged offender."

Depending on how that was actually worded I wonder if that can be expanded to exclude ALL video surveillance whether a series of still images or full motion video as well. What about motion activated security cameras? Food for thought.

Interesting

 

[RADIOOMAN]

I try to obey all traffic laws. I don't like throwing money away on a ticket. At least if a cop writes you a ticket you can question him in court. The camera has no witness to cross examine.

Some towns have good intentions with the installation of these devices. I think most enjoy the cash flow they generate.

Unless you've never sped, accidentally ran a light, made an illegal lane change, failed to yield, texted, had a buzz, went left of center, no assured clear distance, blah blah blah. Unless you drive absolutely perfectly and never once in your life violated any traffic laws, then your not allowed to use the word EVIL.

Such a powerful and hurtful word to direct towards someone you don't know.

People that are opposed to these cameras are the kind of people that could be catagorized as 'evil'.
If you want to disregard other peoples safety for your own self-indulgence of self-importance then you sir, are related to evil. (word placement corrected)

The above is what I said, now I will attempt to say it again.
If you are opposed to something put in place to help protect innocent people from careless people because your nature is to be careless without regard for other peoples saftey and your opposition is based on the purpose of protecting yourself from being held responisible for your actions then what are you?
I believe there is no evil except what lies in the heart of some people.
I know how I would feel if I were careless and caused injury or death to an innocent person.
I am not sure everyone would feel the same way.

Think about how many times you have heard someone say: "How many wrecks or how many people have to get killed before they change that stop sign to a red light?"
The red light that will soon be disregarded.
When you choose to put your own self-importance before the safety of other people then what are you?
Are you careless, are you neglegent, are you somehow endowed with more rights than the rest of us, are you mean spirited; I think there is a stronger word that describes these types of people.
When your careless actions cause the death of an innocent child, what are you?
It is not a challenge to stop at a red light if you are driving with some semblance of common sense and with concern and regard to other peoples safety.
So if you choose not to stop at that the red light 'cause you are in a hurry and a few seconds is so important to you then you are related to evil.

 

[psycho]

I am an evil person I guess. I'm evil because I don't like the government being able to prosecute for a crime when no witness is present to observe the crime. I'm evil because I think that personal responsibility should be more important than government intervention.

Running red lights is very dangerous and when large amounts of people show no personal responsibility for other's safety I say suspend their licenses for 1 year along with a $1000 fine.
The only people who would have a problem with the red light cameras are those who most likely drive like said individuals.
If there is no witness at a construction site, except surveillance cameras, would you have a problem with the police looking at the footage to identify the scumbags stealing materials to make the arrests????????
If someone broke in your house and cleaned you out would you have a problem with the cops looking through yours or your neighbors surveillence footage to get your stuff back and get the perps arrested.
As far as the govt making money on traffic citation writing....they don't make money and most lose money.

 

[Brake Weight]

Everyone is thinking 'broad daylight-rush hour running of red lights with school busses passing and kids crossing the street.'

I'm thinking 4am coming home from work and stuck at a red light that doesn't have a sensor telling it a car is there. One that just runs on a timer. Or those in series that if your tires break the plane of white paint before it turns red you'll make the next 5 in a row. The powers to be that set these cameras up know where to put them for maximum profit. The places I mentioned. Not the places they should be. It's the lesser of two evils...kinda like voting for a president nowadays.

 

[Lil'Yeshua]

The city I work in tried those traffic light cameras for a while and it does make you mind traffic lights. I drive a commercial truck for a living. We commercial drivers have to operate on a higher standard than them four wheelers. A traffic light camera can add to the chance of an accident for the non thinking motorist. Non thinking as in taking into consideration of the non thinking motorist riding their bumper. These cameras should be there to save taxpayer dollars in not having to pay a law enforcement officer to enforce the law. People in general do try to get away with breaking our traffic laws if they can. Oh,the traffic light cameras got taken down for some reason. I could delve into the root issue of why people tend to break laws but that gets into the spiritual side of things.