What about the "Freeband"?

[C W Morse]

cw, how dare you!!!!? (just kidding!)LOL


i enjoyed reading that. good info.
are you speaking of the CAP when you refer to the volunteer org.?

i am curious about a specific group of freqs. and what their usage is, and it seems like you are "in the know" about this subject.

who uses the freqs. from 27.415-27.505?
i know what goes on above and below that; i just dont know who the "official" users of those freqs. are.

thanks for any info you can offer,


loosecannon

I didn't mean to ignore your question; I've gotten busy these last couple of days. I am involved in several volunteer activities including Amateur Radio and SkyWarn. I also have certain authorizations to operate on some military bands both HF and VHF. This include FEMA. Like a lot of folks who volunteer, I was active on the air during 9/11. Since that time,
(here's that OPSEC word again), I have learned to choose what I reveal very carefully. I know that sounds "trite", perhaps, but these days, ya just has to be careful about what you say or tell folks lest you place yourself or others in harm's way. So it may seem like I'm being coy, self-serving, or uppity. Really, it isn't that; I've just been told to be careful what I say because it is SO easy to give up something we shouldn't--and it is SO innocently EASY to do it without realizing it. One of things---and any current military or gov't folks on this forum can tell you it's TRUE---is that one is NOT to ever, ever reveal any operational frequencies, nor is one to SAY the actual frequency he is operating on at the time. You will hear frequencies spoken of as (and this does not refer to any particular one) Alpha Foxtrot Tango or Charlie Delta. And so on

This will also help the guys to see WHY I have been such a bitter pill when it comes to the subject of "freebanding", why I have gotten into so many scraps over it! If your radio training comes via military and NATO protocols, you tend to have a more military view of how radio is to be handled. And, of course, if you OPERATE on some of those frequencies that "freebanders" tend to get on....................well, it tends to P.O. an old communications officer or brass pounder! He sees encroachments as a threat! And don't even get me STARTED about 10 Meters!

But I do enjoy radio, both as pleasure and as a tool. Again, you won't find me "cutting up" with a radio--making ill-mannered noises, suggestive comments, even getting into questionable, or silly QSO's. That 40+ years of protocol just won't let me do it. Indeed, I don't find "playing" with a radio to be funny---throwing carriers, whistling, pecking on the mike, making cutesy or immature comments; that just don't "git" it with me. Actually, I can enjoy doing light repairs, or building equipment to be extremely rewarding! Within my capabilities, of course!

I think your question has been answered by the other guys as to the "upper" frequencies, so I'll just say..................

73

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CWM

 

[C W Morse]

I've never visited the site, so I don't really even know what it is.

73

CWM

 

[loosecannon]

ok then.

.415 to .505 it is.
with occasional forray up to .535 or .555
loosecannon

 

[dudmuck]

i was just reading something interesting about echo charlie.

http://www.geocities.com/rf-man/cb/ec6670.html

At one time, the Italian company CTE International actually manufactured a CB to 6.6MHz transverter, the TR45 (27MHz in, ten watts of 6.6MHz out) and matching BABO45 mobile antenna (175cm long)

It would be trippy to talk on 6670KHz from a CB.

But these days it would be unnecessary, since mobile HF ham rigs are under $700.

 

[C W Morse]

This thing mentions "45 Meters" as 6500-6700. I didn't read the whole thing, but an international HF aviation band is right smack in 6600 KHZ. New York Radio is 6604 KHZ and it IS used, so don't think these frequencies are empty. Take a moment to listen to them to prove this! As a pilot I shudder to think that someone would be filching frequencies there, and I would also think none of us would want one of our loved ones aboard a flight that was trying to use 6624 KHZ on an international flight while someone was using that for their "hobby". With all respect, I would want that severely punished. ONE life lost just ONCE is once too many; that is the principle that guides regulations that untrained people think are too harsh. For good reason, it tends to lean on the safer side to prevent that loss.

Now, with opologies to each of us who might take offense at me, and with the explanation I gave earlier, I say that there is NO excuse for "freebanding" simply by the fact that the Amateur Radio Service is exactly what this kind of hobby radio is FOR: to provide an LEGAL outlet for all hobby communications. It is further less excusable since the Morse Code, once the "barrier" to HF communications, was removed! And STILL people want to tread where they have no business, where they cause harm to legitimate communications. That is one of the arguments of the folks that bitterly complain about CW's removal; that being that these HF bandits want ALL restrictions, all restraints removed from HF communications, to be free to roam all over the spectrum, creating havoc and mayhem to legitimate and necessary communications and the needs of others be hanged! It is a symptom of today's "ME" society!

I'm sure that most of us here discussing radio issues know that I am not in favor of "freebanding", indeed, know that, while I try to see some "other" side of it, I generally resent it simply because I could be operating with authorization somewhere around 4-5 MHZ only to hear American pirates floppin' their jaws, and I'd like to STRANGLE the SOB's :x ! One never used to run into that, and again, I believe it comes from the "me" generation and the "entitlement" crap that has crept into our society! But that's my opinion, again, with respect towards that disagree. It comes from my background that has taught me 180 degrees from the "outlaws" who disrespect the law, attempt to skirt it, and hurt those who obediently follow the law, actually arriving at the same place with-IN the law as those who thieve outside it!

 

[bob85]

i remember several of the transverters changing hands locally back in the day,

you posted a referance to a polaris comet

"Frank is still in the boatyard... didn't he have a Polaris Comet
antenna"

thats the first time i have seen anybody mention the polaris anywhere on the net other than me.

 

[scantheband]

Do you hamsexy CW MORSE?

LOL :gdlf

 

[scantheband]

If you’ve ever been freebanding down in the upper part of 25 MHz and the lower part of 26 MHz and run across what sounded like typical AM/FM broadcast radio and TV stations, what you’ve heard are probably Remote Pickup Units and/or Interruptible Feedback Units. From what I’ve been told, they are monitoring/cueing equipment used to play back the station’s normal audio feed, then superimposing the studio controller’s voice when necessary. How they actually work, I’m not sure, but they’re cool to hear.

Here’s a partial list of such units I and others have heard, showing the 11 meter frequency, the station’s callsign, the station’s actual broadcast frequency/TV channel, and its location. (Some of the callsigns may have changed since these were logged.)

25.870 WFLA (970 kHz) Tampa FL
25.950 KGON (92.3 MHz) Portland OR
26.100 WIS (Ch10) Columbia SC
26.100 KRIV (Ch26) Houston TX
26.100 WREG-TV (Ch3) Memphis TN
26.150 WSB-TV (Ch2) Atlanta GA
26.150 KOLN (Ch10) Lincoln NE
26.150 KARE (Ch11) Minneapolis MN
26.150 KWTX-TV (Ch10) Waco TX
26.200 WGCL (Ch46) Atlanta GA
26.200 KSHB-TV (Ch41) Kansas City MO
26.200 CJAD (800 kHz) Montreal Canada
26.200 WTSP (Ch10) St Petersburg FL
26.200 WBMA (Ch33) Tuscaloosa AL
26.250 WVTM-TV (Ch13) Birmingham AL
26.250 KPRC-TV (Ch2) Houston TX
26.250 WISH-TV (Ch8) Indianapolis IN
26.250 WKXT-TV (Ch8) Knoxville TN
26.250 WESH (Ch2) Orlando FL
26.300 WGCL (Ch46) Atlanta GA
26.300 WTLX (Ch19) Columbia SC
26.300 WHBQ-TV (Ch13) Memphis TN
26.350 WSMV-TV (Ch4) Nashville TN
26.350 WTSP (Ch10) St Petersburg FL
26.400 KSBH-TV (Ch41) Kansas City MO
26.430 WDAF-TV (Ch4) Kansas City MO
26.450 WBRC-TV (Ch6) Birmingham AL
26.450 KCRG-TV (Ch9) Cedar Rapids IA
26.450 KFXA (Ch28) Cedar Rapids IA
26.450 WLW (700 kHz) Cincinnati OH
26.450 KCNC-TV (Ch4) Denver CO
26.450 KUSA-TV (Ch9) Denver CO
26.450 KMGH-TV (Ch7) Denver CO
26.450 WJXT (Ch4) Jacksonville FL
26.450 WHAS-TV (Ch11) Louisville KY
26.450 WECT (Ch6) Wilmington NC

Have fun!

 

[W5LZ]

C W Morse,
You certainly don't need the confirmation but I can definitely do that 'confirming' about some of the so-called 'freebands' and military radio traffic (used to do some of that stuff in my younger days). Didn't have any of the "U", or "F" traffic, but a lot of that "R" stuff and some "I". Both sea and land services use who knows how many 'odd' frequencies (wasn't connected with the Army, so can't say). Trying to find a common HF frequency was really a 'P.I.T.A.' at times.
- 'Doc

A 30 line header and 1 word message wasn't uncommon, was it!

 

[C W Morse]

Msg No:

DTG:

Precedence: (FLASH) [example]



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Gps: 15

Did you see some of these as well?

73

 

[W5LZ]

...or the 'book' messages? Same message in each case, but over 40 headers from the different senders (crew)?
...or the US 'gateway' 'T'-patching? Some of those 'paid' for all the problems/trouble of the rest of them. Odd, 'they' never said anything about starting around 3 Pm and maybe getting finished at 4 Am, cuz you had a full shift starting at 7 Am. How do you tell someone you can't because you can't speak the recipient's native language? 'Fake' it?
- 'Doc

Had more fun than I knew what to do with!