At what point do you become a "big strapper...big beams and boxes.?? The guy that got me into radio 25 years ago had a moonraker 8 ...and a 6 element V quad...the vquad was only 20ft off ground...but holy crap it talked...he ran tube everything and worked 28 and 6 bowl...MISS THOSE DAYS...and to me he was a big dog