Interesting Read Bob, Thanks for sharing
My .2....
I Lived in a very rural area, had a nice tall 3 story House, easy roof to work on, and an about perfect test base. On the roof I had a pair of 10 foot Tripods separated by 45 feet of roof, 20 Feet of Well pipe leaving the base of the antenna at 63 Feet. At the time was no such thing as Antrons, Sirio, larrys, Macos, Etc...
I did have the Sigma IV, Starduster, Penetrator 500, and a Sigma II. Surrounding Terrain was Flat except a large Hill (Ski Hill) to my SW at about 8 miles. While I wasn't perfect in my test I was pretty thorough.
Radios used were:
Base: Johnson 500/Collins R390, Tram D201 D&A Phantom.
Mobile: Hygain V, 102 Whip (roof mounted Aprox. center of car roof), and an Old School Palomar 4 transistor mobile.
The tests were run over about a week. Consisted of talking to the mobile without interruption to a local (1940 foot elevation)Mountain, about 60 miles as the crow flies. For base to base comparison I used 3 contacts. One at about 20 miles Moonraker 4, and a Penetrator. One at about 55 miles, Starduster. And one about 110 miles with a PDL II.
Back in the day gas was cheap, time was plentiful, and I was a pretty full of energy.
Up until about 15 years ago I still had the Paper with all the appropriate signal strengths, and distances. Unfortunately not anymore.
I do recall the antennas were all within a small range on my R390, The Tram was a bit more difficult to read but results were the same.
stationary mobile to base, and base to base the Sigma IV was the winner. though for the first 20 miles the difference was minimal. Signal was measured about every 5 miles at a quick stop. it wasn't until 50+ miles the antenna began to really shine.
I was able to talk to the mobile the full 60 miles QRP except in the case of the Starduster, was a few times I lost signal. This was rolling and could be attributed to conditions.
Base to Base was pretty much a repeat. The Sigma IV beat all the others with a noticeable signal increase both TX and RX. at 110 miles the Sigma IV made enough difference to allow a reliable conversation with less then 25 watts possible.
Also years later I did some tests, which consisted of a Penetrator and a Starduster copy, VS a Larry... Same results.
Interestingly I also had a very cool fairly close copy (Spec wise) of the Moonraker 4... I don't remember the maker (Cushcraft maybe?) but it was pre-assembled, you just bolted the boom together, telescoped the elements, locked the hinged elements in place and you were done... Very impressive antenna, or so I thought.
Carefully measured and tuned the antenna. Put it on my 10 foot tripod in place of the Larry.... Boy what a huge disappointment, the larry did better both TX, and RX.
Now in this case, it shouldn't have been, but it was... antenna was mounted about 36 feet center boom. The Larry was obviously a bit higher due to its profile.
Only thing I can figure is possibly because I was in a slight hole. Lived right on a lake, and even to the South where it was level the Larry still kicked its butt.
Moving forward to the mid nineties I compared the Sirio Sigma IV with the Antron.. What a huge difference. No matter the distance. I will say the V58 was also a big difference, was not as strong as the Sirio though.
Over the years I've owned the original Avanti, the Larry LW150(think that was it) A gold anodized copy CTE?, and the Sirio. All were decent antennas, the gold version was very annoying to get tuned up, but once I managed it was great. None of them matched the build quality of the Original. I will add Attention to detail in assembly was important on all of them.
Since my Start in radio in the 70's I've owned Just about every antenna made My all time favorite is hands down the Sigma IV. Copies 2nd, then Sigma II, and Penetrator. Would like to try the some of the modern antennas but I just cannot Justify the cost.
Excellent test. Wonderful testing equipment!
I had a Larrys LW-150 and I received different results, more along the lines of boring standard antenna theory, as the Hy-Gain .64 Penetrator outperformed the LW-150 at ~45miles by 1.5 S-units both RX & TX, due, I believe, to the lower take-off angle of radiation.
Same radios, Yaesu FT-107M for SSB, and a Johnson Messenger 223 for AM, (with it's commercial piece of test equipment-like meter & circuit) same coax, mast, etc.
What surprised me was the receive being lower than that of the Penetrator. I expected at least better RX due to the LW-150 being about 5 feet taller, but it seemed to follow the radiation angle of the TX, and dropped considerably in comparison to the Penetrator, especially at greater distances. The greater the distance the more the Penetrator excelled.
I absolutely loved the construction of the LW-150 but had to let it go, reluctantly, due to it being a poorer performer in comparison to the Hy-Gain Penetrator.
I was under no pressure to sell it, and adored the forged aluminum cylinders which joined each section to the next, plus the weight being that of TWO Penetrators / I-10Ks attesting to the exceptionally high-quality construction, etc., but what good would an inferior performer of an antenna do for me?
Last I heard it's now living in Boise, Idaho along with my old, beloved, White Yaesu FT-107M, a radio I truly miss.
I have also talked with others who have replaced their 3/4 wave whatever antenna with a .64 (Penetrator / Sigma5/8 / Wilson Apha / I-10k, etc.) and have seen improvement, especially over greater distances.
One local radio op switched from the MacoV-5/8 to the 4000 then back to the Maco because he said they performed the same but he didn't like the light-duty construction of the 4000. WOW, and he thought that tissue-paper-weight Maco was better built?? Eeeek! No wonder the 4000s are losing their 'heads'! (top elements)
I'll wager just the radials from the Penetrator outweigh the entire MacoV-5/8
The swr was less than 1.2:1 on each antenna I tested, and built/assembled 'by-the-book'.
The Penetrator has one issue for some, the ground shunt part of the match has often been assembled incorrectly and attached to the wrong side, thus causing some slight degradation in performance. It's easy to do if you have Slisdexia like eM, or don't pay attention to the diagram & pictures, which might account for your apparent sub-level performance.
Still, excellent test, I like to hear about those, especially when so much care is taken to keep it fair!
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