maco 103c

[bginn]

I have a maco 103c horizontal for running ssb. Is it any better running vertical?

 

[W5LZ]

Better in what way? If all you are interested in are local stations that only use vertical antennas then maybe. If not, then there's no particular advantage.
- 'Doc

 

[Robb]

I have a maco 103c horizontal for running ssb. Is it any better running vertical?

I run my beam horizontal; I wound NEVER run it vertical.
Ask yourself this question: have you ever seen a Ham op running his Yagi vertical?!?
Flatside beams kicks butt!
<Ground gain>

 

[GnG8d]

No, because they stack easier horizontal.

 

[hookedon6]

...Flatside beams kicks butt!
<Ground gain>

... and less man made (vertical) noise**Jump_im**

 

[GnG8d]

Wives tale. "noise" is frequency dependant.

 

[wavrider]

Wives tale. "noise" is frequency dependant.

If noise was not a frequency you would never hear it.

Most man made noise is vertically polarized, 18 to 20 db less of noise will be on the receive if the antenna is horizontal.

As far as easier to stack horizontal? depends what frequency, no problem stacking the two meter yagis vertical.

 

[555]

i hear alot of hams say the same thing about noise versus vertical versus flatside

must be true

 

[GnG8d]

If noise was not a frequency you would never hear it.

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Exactly.

 

[IMD262]

I run my beam horizontal; I wound NEVER run it vertical.
Ask yourself this question: have you ever seen a Ham op running his Yagi vertical?!?
Flatside beams kicks butt!
<Ground gain>

It's pretty common to see them vertical for VHF+ FM.

 

[W5LZ]

It's common for VHF/UHF because of the sizes of the antennas. When you get to HF, those sizes are not so practical anymore. It's certainly possible for 10 or 11 meters, just not so easy to do. Which is beside the point of the original question.
- 'Doc

 

[Robb]

I have a maco 103c horizontal for running ssb. Is it any better running vertical?

It's pretty common to see them vertical for VHF+ FM.

Not on freq's below 10m they don't; he was discussing his Maco 103C after all.

I thought someone would comment on ground gain for Yagis on this thread.

Oh well . . .

 

[bginn]

I will keep it on the flat side. Thanks guys

 

[n0zna]

just to say a word or two,ptrs

uhf/vhf rptrs are vert antennas...you would have a directional antenna on the rptr tower.73 de n0zna

 

[RatsoW8]

Wives tale. "noise" is frequency dependant.

Vertical antennas do see more noise because most man made noise is vertically polarized and( if my memory isn't completely failing) ground wave propagation is mostly vetically polarized. Horizontal ground waves attenuate faster than their vertical counterparts in GW prop..or something like that.

That's why a flat top dipole will receive less noise than a vertical antenna in the same location. Antenna class was a long long time ago :blushing: