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More Details to come. These will not be build by RCI either. Cobra has Giant designing something for them right now.
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If they were to come out with an updated 2000, or something that resembled it, they would rule the world.
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Frank, please quit telling to tell people to buy good quality radios that you don't have to modify out of the box. They might think you're "badmouthing" them, <img src=http://users.joplin.com/dutch64804/posticon24.gif ALT=":lmao"> AND I WILL BE OUT OF A JOB BECAUSE THERE WILL BE NOTHING TO FIX, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU SAW A ICOM 706 mkIIg IN THE SHOP FOR REPAIR? Hey us techs need to eat too!!!<img src=http://users.joplin.com/dutch64804/posticon24.gif ALT=":lmao"> <img src=http://home.comcast.net/~shockwav/christmas_344.gif ALT=":mxmas">
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Ben,
You are right. Also without exports most CB Shops would go out of business in a hurry. Radios and Amps. Profits from Sales of them help support there bread and butter repairing them!
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You are right. Also without exports most CB Shops would go out of business in a hurry. Radios and Amps. Profits from Sales of them help support there bread and butter repairing them!
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Models will be the Cobra 150 GTL DX (AM/FM) and the Cobra 200 GTL DX (AM/FM/USB/LSB)
The 150:
Front 4 pin mic
15 watts/dual finals will probably peak to 35-40 PEP
4 bands x 60 channels each for 240 channels once expanded
SWR/CAL with antenna warning lights
10 KC switch
Lo/Hi power select
Dual Echo control
Variable talkback
LARGE METER like Galaxy
freq counter Jack
Mic gain
Night watch with variable dimmmer
PA
NO ROGER BEEP
The 200:
Same as above, but
Roger beep
No talkback feature
Frequency counter (6 digits)
30 watts AM, 100 watts SSB (list as two 40 watt finals???
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The 150:
Front 4 pin mic
15 watts/dual finals will probably peak to 35-40 PEP
4 bands x 60 channels each for 240 channels once expanded
SWR/CAL with antenna warning lights
10 KC switch
Lo/Hi power select
Dual Echo control
Variable talkback
LARGE METER like Galaxy
freq counter Jack
Mic gain
Night watch with variable dimmmer
PA
NO ROGER BEEP
The 200:
Same as above, but
Roger beep
No talkback feature
Frequency counter (6 digits)
30 watts AM, 100 watts SSB (list as two 40 watt finals???
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Hey, I guess I'll stick with being that little 'ol mudduck talking on that redneck cb raaaaadio.
anyway...good to hear us CB'ers have a couple hot new radios coming.....
Have to see if we can find a CB tech anywhere
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anyway...good to hear us CB'ers have a couple hot new radios coming.....
Have to see if we can find a CB tech anywhere
naw...just get the people turned off that haven't dealt with him before..
and the people such as myself that have spent their low-tech redneck dollars with a company decide to never do it again.
This board is not for slamming anyones opinion on a radio....give your own sure...but if you have never held one and just say its the usual"crap"sounds good coming from a business owner
kill the thread, waste of time, closed minds, moving along, nothing to be seen here...NEXT...
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and the people such as myself that have spent their low-tech redneck dollars with a company decide to never do it again.
This board is not for slamming anyones opinion on a radio....give your own sure...but if you have never held one and just say its the usual"crap"sounds good coming from a business owner
kill the thread, waste of time, closed minds, moving along, nothing to be seen here...NEXT...
Thats what I was thinking. The title of this thread is NEW COBRA CB RADIO COMING IN 2005. Not Bash the people that want to know about them.
And the way I see it if you don't like the thread saty away from it. Seems to me everytime there is a cb topic you jump in right away and tell them to get a ham radio.Frank. The way I see it if they wanted to be a ham operator they would be, and if they want to run a export they will, if they want to run a cb radio, they will.
Me myself I have ran a icom706 on the cb band and the people I talked to said it sounded like crap on there, but now when it was on the ham bands people said it souned good.
73's & God Bless
Randy CDX492 AKA The Missouri Mudduck!
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And the way I see it if you don't like the thread saty away from it. Seems to me everytime there is a cb topic you jump in right away and tell them to get a ham radio.Frank. The way I see it if they wanted to be a ham operator they would be, and if they want to run a export they will, if they want to run a cb radio, they will.
Me myself I have ran a icom706 on the cb band and the people I talked to said it sounded like crap on there, but now when it was on the ham bands people said it souned good.
73's & God Bless
Randy CDX492 AKA The Missouri Mudduck!
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Everyone is combining a lot of different thoughts and points from this thread together into 1 giant issue and confusing what I think is really being said by a few on both sides of the issue. Regardless of where you come down on the issue, there are a few truths that need to be evaluated and looked at by each consumer when determining where you want to spend your cash:
1. If you're the type that is going to buy every other new CB or Export radio that comes out, thinking you're getting the latest & greatest thing, you are dumping a whole lot of cash and not getting much in return. Practically every CB / Export that has been introduced lately is just a re-packaging of something else that already exists. Technology $$ are not really being put into CB / Exports these days. If you buy 3 $200 radios trying to find the one that suits you, you could have just bought one better radio and been done with it.
2. Not everyone is going to drop $600 on total radio equipment. For the guy with a budget of around $200 for a radio that is only going to talk on 11m, has no desire to try different bands or modes, then buying one of the better CB / Export is your better investment. You can have a lot of fun on 11m and it doesn't have to cost a fortune. DXMan is a perfect example of this. It's pointless to recommend buying a $600 radio to this type of person because they're not going to have any more fun with a fancy radio than they would with a CB / Export.
3. If you're going to buy a scanner, a Short Wave receiver, a CB / Export, pre-amp, and who knows what all else, you're still better off buying one quality $600 rig like the 706. You'll get all that in one package and you will spend less.
4. If you're into keydowns, echo, roger beeps, noise toys, raspy audio, and all that, then buy the CB / Export. You won't be happy with a ham rig and how it sounds. But please don't get fooled by the manufacturers every time something new comes out.
5. If you're a serious DXer, then there ARE some features on ham rigs that make it a whole lot easier, even if you are only going to do 11m. That doesn't mean you can't do it just fine with a CB / Export. DXMAN has already shown us that. But there are NO, (and I really mean NONE) CB / Exports that have changeable SSB / AM RX filters, adjustable pass band tuning, 32 bit DSP selectable TX and RX filters, DSP noise reduction, 20db and 40db pre-amps, 20db RX attenuators, and auto or adjustable notch filtering. All that stuff helps you A LOT on the RX end. How many export users can say that they can literally make someone 1 or 2 khz adjacent in their RX while trying to make that tough contact go away just by some simple tuning of the knob? Or how about filter out the Mexico bleed that's on the opposite SSB? Or get rid of the annoying heterodyne you get when too many stations are transmitting on close frequencies? There are a few things that make your TX be heard better, also. Features like speech compression and adjustable carrier frequency (helps adjust your TX voice characteristics) help you bust through a pile up with the power you have. Take two operators next to each other. One on a 100 watt export and one on a 706. If both running same power and antenna, the 706 will likely be heard over the export because of the features I just mentioned. All of these things are what makes the radio more expensive. Are they absolutely necessary for having fun? NO. But if you're constantly buying $200 radios trying to find the latest technology and features to assist the serious DXer, you're looking in the wrong place.
6. If you're the the "strickly keep it legal" operator, then use a Type Accepted CB on 11m only and don't modify it. And don't DX, either...that's illegal on 11m <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":"> If you want to also run on the ham bands, then use whatever you want on them as long as you follow the RF emissions rules.
BTW, last time I checked, F.G.Best doesn't even sell ham rigs, except those on consignment. So I don't think Frank's trying to pad his wallet by recommending better radios. I think if everyone takes a look at the points they way I listed they can make the $$ investment that suits themself.
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1. If you're the type that is going to buy every other new CB or Export radio that comes out, thinking you're getting the latest & greatest thing, you are dumping a whole lot of cash and not getting much in return. Practically every CB / Export that has been introduced lately is just a re-packaging of something else that already exists. Technology $$ are not really being put into CB / Exports these days. If you buy 3 $200 radios trying to find the one that suits you, you could have just bought one better radio and been done with it.
2. Not everyone is going to drop $600 on total radio equipment. For the guy with a budget of around $200 for a radio that is only going to talk on 11m, has no desire to try different bands or modes, then buying one of the better CB / Export is your better investment. You can have a lot of fun on 11m and it doesn't have to cost a fortune. DXMan is a perfect example of this. It's pointless to recommend buying a $600 radio to this type of person because they're not going to have any more fun with a fancy radio than they would with a CB / Export.
3. If you're going to buy a scanner, a Short Wave receiver, a CB / Export, pre-amp, and who knows what all else, you're still better off buying one quality $600 rig like the 706. You'll get all that in one package and you will spend less.
4. If you're into keydowns, echo, roger beeps, noise toys, raspy audio, and all that, then buy the CB / Export. You won't be happy with a ham rig and how it sounds. But please don't get fooled by the manufacturers every time something new comes out.
5. If you're a serious DXer, then there ARE some features on ham rigs that make it a whole lot easier, even if you are only going to do 11m. That doesn't mean you can't do it just fine with a CB / Export. DXMAN has already shown us that. But there are NO, (and I really mean NONE) CB / Exports that have changeable SSB / AM RX filters, adjustable pass band tuning, 32 bit DSP selectable TX and RX filters, DSP noise reduction, 20db and 40db pre-amps, 20db RX attenuators, and auto or adjustable notch filtering. All that stuff helps you A LOT on the RX end. How many export users can say that they can literally make someone 1 or 2 khz adjacent in their RX while trying to make that tough contact go away just by some simple tuning of the knob? Or how about filter out the Mexico bleed that's on the opposite SSB? Or get rid of the annoying heterodyne you get when too many stations are transmitting on close frequencies? There are a few things that make your TX be heard better, also. Features like speech compression and adjustable carrier frequency (helps adjust your TX voice characteristics) help you bust through a pile up with the power you have. Take two operators next to each other. One on a 100 watt export and one on a 706. If both running same power and antenna, the 706 will likely be heard over the export because of the features I just mentioned. All of these things are what makes the radio more expensive. Are they absolutely necessary for having fun? NO. But if you're constantly buying $200 radios trying to find the latest technology and features to assist the serious DXer, you're looking in the wrong place.
6. If you're the the "strickly keep it legal" operator, then use a Type Accepted CB on 11m only and don't modify it. And don't DX, either...that's illegal on 11m <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":"> If you want to also run on the ham bands, then use whatever you want on them as long as you follow the RF emissions rules.
BTW, last time I checked, F.G.Best doesn't even sell ham rigs, except those on consignment. So I don't think Frank's trying to pad his wallet by recommending better radios. I think if everyone takes a look at the points they way I listed they can make the $$ investment that suits themself.
Moleculo
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hahah....I like the bleed over comment.
<blockquote>Quote:<hr> But if I can accomplish my goals with out spending a fortune, then is definitely the way I will go<hr></blockquote>
Yep, I'm not trying to take anything away from what you've already accomplished...it's quite impressive. I think I covered that method of enjoying the hobby, and a lot of people can learn from what you've done. I just wanted to give everyone some different things to think about when making decisions about what to spend their hard earned cash on, so at least they feel like they know the whole picture.
Moleculo
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<blockquote>Quote:<hr> But if I can accomplish my goals with out spending a fortune, then is definitely the way I will go<hr></blockquote>
Yep, I'm not trying to take anything away from what you've already accomplished...it's quite impressive. I think I covered that method of enjoying the hobby, and a lot of people can learn from what you've done. I just wanted to give everyone some different things to think about when making decisions about what to spend their hard earned cash on, so at least they feel like they know the whole picture.
Moleculo
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<blockquote>Quote:<hr>5. If you're a serious DXer, then there ARE some features on ham rigs that make it a whole lot easier, even if you are only going to do 11m. That doesn't mean you can't do it just fine with a CB / Export. DXMAN has already shown us that.<hr></blockquote>
I didn't say if you were serious you NEEDED all the features. I said they make things easier. I also said that's why the price is higher. I also used you (DXMAN) as an example of why you don't need it.
Antennas do make a big difference. But I can make another whole similar case on why you don't NEED yagi or quad beams and towers and can do it all just fine with wire antennas. I can't put up a big tower and beam antenna right now. I wish I could, but I can't. So I decided to spend the money I had available in a way that can help me out with the antenna system I have. Everyone has constraints to deal with somewhere in this hobby: money, space, zoning restrictions, neighbors, wife <img src=http://www.wwdx.org/smilies/posticon5.gif ALT="
5"> , whatever. Everyone will work with what they can.
I don't think anyone anywhere in this thread was trying to make a case that you needed any specific type of equipment to get the job done. Just understand what your money is going toward when or if you spend it.
BTW, that is one MASSIVE halibut!!!! <img src=http://www.wwdx.org/smilies/posticon13.gif ALT="13"> <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/tongue.gif ALT=""> 13<img src=http://www.wwdx.org/smilies/posticon13.gif ALT="13">
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I didn't say if you were serious you NEEDED all the features. I said they make things easier. I also said that's why the price is higher. I also used you (DXMAN) as an example of why you don't need it.
Antennas do make a big difference. But I can make another whole similar case on why you don't NEED yagi or quad beams and towers and can do it all just fine with wire antennas. I can't put up a big tower and beam antenna right now. I wish I could, but I can't. So I decided to spend the money I had available in a way that can help me out with the antenna system I have. Everyone has constraints to deal with somewhere in this hobby: money, space, zoning restrictions, neighbors, wife <img src=http://www.wwdx.org/smilies/posticon5.gif ALT="
5"> , whatever. Everyone will work with what they can.I don't think anyone anywhere in this thread was trying to make a case that you needed any specific type of equipment to get the job done. Just understand what your money is going toward when or if you spend it.
BTW, that is one MASSIVE halibut!!!! <img src=http://www.wwdx.org/smilies/posticon13.gif ALT="
13"> <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/tongue.gif ALT=""> 13<img src=http://www.wwdx.org/smilies/posticon13.gif ALT="13"> </p>
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