Coronavirus

[2NC995]

Pretty much every day in Italy becomes the worst yet, and today is no exception with 250 new deaths.

 

[TIN_CAN]

A week or more according to pathologist/virologist James Robb.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Robb_(pathologist)

"Subject: What I am doing for the upcoming COVID-19 (coronavirus) pandemic

Dear Colleagues, as some of you may recall, when I was a professor of pathology at the University of California San Diego, I was one of the first molecular virologists in the world to work on coronaviruses (the 1970s). I was the first to demonstrate the number of genes the virus contained. Since then, I have kept up with the coronavirus field and its multiple clinical transfers into the human population (e.g., SARS, MERS), from different animal sources.

The current projections for its expansion in the US are only probable, due to continued insufficient worldwide data, but it is most likely to be widespread in the US by mid to late March and April.

Here is what I have done and the precautions that I take and will take. These are the same precautions I currently use during our influenza seasons, except for the mask and gloves.:

1) NO HANDSHAKING! Use a fist bump, slight bow, elbow bump, etc.
2) Use ONLY your knuckle to touch light switches. elevator buttons, etc.. Lift the gasoline dispenser with a paper towel or use a disposable glove.
3) Open doors with your closed fist or hip - do not grasp the handle with your hand, unless there is no other way to open the door. Especially important on bathroom and post office/commercial doors.
4) Use disinfectant wipes at the stores when they are available, including wiping the handle and child seat in grocery carts.
5) Wash your hands with soap for 10-20 seconds and/or use a greater than 60% alcohol-based hand sanitizer whenever you return home from ANY activity that involves locations where other people have been.
6) Keep a bottle of sanitizer available at each of your home's entrances. AND in your car for use after getting gas or touching other contaminated objects when you can't immediately wash your hands.
7) If possible, cough or sneeze into a disposable tissue and discard. Use your elbow only if you have to. The clothing on your elbow will contain infectious virus that can be passed on for up to a week or more!

What I have stocked in preparation for the pandemic spread to the US:
1) Latex or nitrile latex disposable gloves for use when going shopping, using the gasoline pump, and all other outside activity when you come in contact with contaminated areas.
Note: This virus is spread in large droplets by coughing and sneezing. This means that the air will not infect you! BUT all the surfaces where these droplets land are infectious for about a week on average - everything that is associated with infected people will be contaminated and potentially infectious. The virus is on surfaces and you will not be infected unless your unprotected face is directly coughed or sneezed upon. This virus only has cell receptors for lung cells (it only infects your lungs) The only way for the virus to infect you is through your nose or mouth via your hands or an infected cough or sneeze onto or into your nose or mouth.
2) Stock up now with disposable surgical masks and use them to prevent you from touching your nose and/or mouth (We touch our nose/mouth 90X/day without knowing it!). This is the only way this virus can infect you - it is lung-specific. The mask will not prevent the virus in a direct sneeze from getting into your nose or mouth - it is only to keep you from touching your nose or mouth.
3) Stock up now with hand sanitizers and latex/nitrile gloves (get the appropriate sizes for your family). The hand sanitizers must be alcohol-based and greater than 60% alcohol to be effective.
4) Stock up now with zinc lozenges. These lozenges have been proven to be effective in blocking coronavirus (and most other viruses) from multiplying in your throat and nasopharynx. Use as directed several times each day when you begin to feel ANY "cold-like" symptoms beginning. It is best to lie down and let the lozenge dissolve in the back of your throat and nasopharynx. Cold-Eeze lozenges is one brand available, but there are other brands available.

I, as many others do, hope that this pandemic will be reasonably contained, BUT I personally do not think it will be. Humans have never seen this snake-associated virus before and have no internal defense against it. Tremendous worldwide efforts are being made to understand the molecular and clinical virology of this virus. Unbelievable molecular knowledge about the genomics, structure, and virulence of this virus has already been achieved. BUT, there will be NO drugs or vaccines available this year to protect us or limit the infection within us. Only symptomatic support is available.
I hope these personal thoughts will be helpful during this potentially catastrophic pandemic. You are welcome to share this email. Good luck to all of us!

Jim

James Robb, MD FCAP"

Thanks for the great advise Jim as I am sure everyone else feels the same.
Thank you.

 

[Road Squawker]

Pretty much every day in Italy becomes the worst yet, and today is no exception with 250 new deaths.

Italy is one of the dirtiest countries in the world, especially Northern Italy.
Trash pickup is non existent, garbage is just thrown out to rot in the streets.

 

[2NC995]

Italy is one of the dirtiest countries in the world, especially Northern Italy.
Trash pickup is non existent, garbage is just thrown out to rot in the streets.

ENC Pirate mentioned that the other day...I had no idea.

 

[Tokin]

I work for a greenhouse that supplies Disney and Bush Gardens among many other resorts and restaurants with fresh microgreens, herbs and edible flowers. We supply nation wide thru Gordon Foods and Sysco . Our boss was called to go to Disney offices this morning for a meeting just before announcing publicly they will be closing Sunday. This virus could put me out of work for a while so im preparing more for being unemployed than buying masks and disinfectants. If folks were smart they would buy bulk to limit the amount of time you have to be out in public. This virus is in several of my surrounding counties so im not screwing around. Too many tourists and cruise ships for me to feel comfortable here.
If were back in the mountains of Washington state might not be as concerned.
Im taking vitamin supplements like Emergen C daily for immune support, drinking lots of water and walking away from sick looking/sounding people.
Smart people consider their own situation then if need be prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

 

[Tokin]

Simple CHEAP sanitizer.

 

[Redbeard U812]

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[Shadetree Mechanic]

You can buy toilet paper from your local Walmart online before the truck arrives. Pick up at the store is the most convenient for me. They will deliver but someone has to be home to sign for it. The Walmart website is out and Amazon is out. Every local store is out. People are buying a lot because there is a shortage because people are buying a lot because there is a shortage..........

 

[Shadetree Mechanic]

I bought some supplies, Sam's club has a limit of two cases of water. No limit on beer.......

 

[Shadetree Mechanic]

Just got the automated recording from the local school district. All Delaware schools are closed.

 

[Shadetree Mechanic]

My father volunteers at the local hospital. They were just instructed not to come in for the next 60 days. Just as well, he is not young and doesn't need to get it.

 

[dave457]

Now would be a good time to buy some stock in toilet paper...

 

[Shadetree Mechanic]

Now would be a good time to buy some stock in toilet paper...

Check out Scott paper, Kimberly Clark and Proctor and Gamble. Also what ever company got the government contract to make the test kits would be a good one.

 

[WECSOG]

I bought some supplies, Sam's club has a limit of two cases of water. No limit on beer.......

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I'm not too concerned about water. I have a pretty good amount stored, and it rains a lot here. So even if the public water supply were interrupted or contaminated (both of which have happened here in the past), I would still have water. I have several water filters, and you can disinfect water with bleach:

• Disinfect water using household bleach, if you can’t boil water. Only use regular, unscented chlorine bleach products that are suitable for disinfection and sanitization as indicated on the label. The label may say that the active ingredient contains 6 or 8.25% of sodium hypochlorite. Do not use scented, color safe, or bleaches with added cleaners.If water is cloudy, let it settle and filter it through a clean cloth, paper towel, or coffee filter.
  • Locate a clean dropper from your medicine cabinet or emergency supply kit.
  • Locate a fresh liquid chlorine bleach or liquid chlorine bleach that is stored at room temperatures for less than one year.
  • Use the table below as a guide to decide the amount of bleach you should add to the water, for example, 8 drops of 6% bleach, or 6 drops of 8.25% bleach, to each gallon of water. Double the amount of bleach if the water is cloudy, colored, or very cold.
    
  • Stir and let stand for 30 minutes. The water should have a slight chlorine odor. If it doesn’t, repeat the dosage and let stand for another 15 minutes before use.
  • If the chlorine taste is too strong, pour the water from one clean container to another and let it stand for a few hours before use.

Volume of Water Amount of 6% Bleach to Add* Amount of 8.25% Bleach to Add*
1 quart/liter 2 drops 2 drops
1 gallon 8 drops 6 drops
2 gallons 16 drops (1/4 tsp) 12 drops (1/8 teaspoon)
4 gallons 1/3 teaspoon 1/4 teaspoon
8 gallons 2/3 teaspoon 1/2 teaspoon
*Bleach may contain 6 or 8.25% sodium hypochlorite.
Source: https://www.epa.gov/ground-water-and-drinking-water/emergency-disinfection-drinking-water

 

[WECSOG]

Here's a US military manual about water purification and disinfection:
https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a444751.pdf