HAARP?

[brandon7861]

I recognize the potential for jamming, but how fast can that thing change frequency? Most military communications are spread spectrum and can rapidly move to other bands in a predictable manner to avoid that. The hardware HAARP uses is only good for a narrow segment of the HF band. Most military communications are done with satellites in the GHz bands now, so what impact could HF have on that?

Do me a favor, explain what this means:
"Because of the unique juxtaposition of usable fuel source at the point where desirable field lines intersect the earth's surface, such wide ranging and complete communication interference can be achieved in a resonably short period of time."

Juxtaposition is the process of placing two opposing things together to compare them. What is being compared here? And what does a fuel source have to do with magnetic field lines? And what do they mean by favorable field lines? Looks like a word salad to me.

 

[Shockwave]

I recognize the potential for jamming, but how fast can that thing change frequency? Most military communications are spread spectrum and can rapidly move to other bands in a predictable manner to avoid that. The hardware HAARP uses is only good for a narrow segment of the HF band. Most military communications are done with satellites in the GHz bands now, so what impact could HF have on that?

Do me a favor, explain what this means:
"Because of the unique juxtaposition of usable fuel source at the point where desirable field lines intersect the earth's surface, such wide ranging and complete communication interference can be achieved in a resonably short period of time."

Juxtaposition is the process of placing two opposing things together to compare them. What is being compared here? And what does a fuel source have to do with magnetic field lines? And what do they mean by favorable field lines? Looks like a word salad to me.

If you referenced and understood the patent I mentioned four pages ago, you wouldn't be stuck in this confusion right now. What is being discussed, is the unique location in Alaska. Were the Earth's magnetic lines of flux intersect and a massive fuel source of natural gas, exist in the same location. The fuel source required to power this 3.6 GW station.

Had you followed my suggestion and educated yourself before commenting, you would see that HAARP can create a plasma in the ionosphere which will block Communications to satellites. This isn't a matter of being on the same frequency in use, it's a matter of disrupting the ionosphere so that communications don't pass.

 

[Shockwave]

There is no need to debate for me. Pencil thin beam pattern says it all. One little hot spot cannot make a widespread long-lasting change in anything. Thats like holding a zippo in the wind, then closing the lid and expecting it to change the wind patterns a mile away an hour later.

Show me one piece of evidence, just one, that this is actually happening. Not a paper that speaks to theory, but real observation. That station has been active for how long? And yet, nobody has done that. That tells me more than any patent ever will.

I'll bet you didn't know HAARP can raise temperatures by hundreds of degrees or, form it's own version of the Northern Lights.

"In such experiments, certain regions of the ionosphere are heated to change the electron density and temperature within these regions. This is accomplished by transmitting from earth-based antennae high frequency electromagnetic radiation at a substantial angle to, not parallel to, the ionosphere's magnetic field to heat the ionospheric particles primarily by ohmic heating. The electron temperature of the ionosphere has been raised by hundreds of degrees in these experiments, and electrons with several electron volts of energy have been produced in numbers sufficient to enhance airglow."

 

[brandon7861]

If a navy vessel attempts to transmit to a satellite, they aim at that part of the ionosphere and block it. Got it. That means they have to track the vessels and know what satellites they intend to communicate with. Assuming we know that information, that still doesn't make any sense to me because of the large number of satellites. If one is blocked, they could just aim at another. They could even relay through another vessel and take a different angle to the satellite. How is that to be effective?

 

[brandon7861]

And if that were the purpose, why does HAARP not have CIWS or other defensive systems? It wouldn't take much to wipe that array out if an enemy had to.

 

[Shockwave]

If a navy vessel attempts to transmit to a satellite, they aim at that part of the ionosphere and block it. Got it. That means they have to track the vessels and know what satellites they intend to communicate with. Assuming we know that information, that still doesn't make any sense to me because of the large number of satellites. If one is blocked, they could just aim at another. They could even relay through another vessel and take a different angle to the satellite. How is that to be effective?

It doesn't make sense to you, because that's not how it works. It's not like they just flip a switch and instantly block out Communications in a specific spot. This process takes hours to ionize the atmosphere and create an enlarging plasma. The patent discusses how a characteristic called ion drag, causes the plasma to spread out. Since the plasma is highly conductive, as long as it continues to be energized, it is sustained with the ability to grow in size. The HAARP facility in Alaska, is far from the only ionospheric heater in the world too.

 

[Shockwave]

And if that were the purpose, why does HAARP not have CIWS or other defensive systems? It wouldn't take much to wipe that array out if an enemy had to.

It's called redundancy. There are many other atmospheric heaters, worldwide. Most are not published. Once you know what the antenna farm looks like, they become easier to spot.

I passed this installation on I-95 in Virgina.

 

[brandon7861]

Hopefully they don't ionize too much, I'd sure hate to lose my Starlink or my TV service!

 

[Greg T]

Tesla had it figured out 120+ years ago... or more.