Had two to many icoms,didnt learn the first time,ic32a or w32a JUNK...and a ic80,nightmare to program and ran hot...would burn you,sent it back two times and traded it for a kantronic tnc and my best is the one i have now,a ft250r and 2nd best was a icom mistake they made it for them a rad shack htx202...had a alinco dj180 for around 20 years,many bat packs...great radio...73 de n0zna