I doubt they were legal hams but were talking about ham gear and running ham gear.
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If FCC gave CB 50 watts
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That is possible, they sounded like ham guys for sure. Yes they have a sound, laughs. But I did not hear any call signs, so you are correct. But pretty sure by the gab. Ham guys. No big deal, not like there jammin me daily this was a one off; I am not a cop, laughs.
Shadetree Mechanic
Delaware Base Station 808
If you had 50w you could have dropped the maul on them. Haha
Hams can use CB just like everyone can there is NO License needed for CB.
Yes if they were using FT 101 radios they are technically breaking the rules.
All CB radios used in the US are required to be type accepted by the FCC.
Everyone knows this is not the case because forever export radios and amps are as common as flies on the CB band.
The Yaesu FT 101's have been used by CB guys since the 1970's regardless.
It is however Not legal to talk on 10 meters without a License.
Personally I don't care what you run as long as it is clean.
And if some one is hogging 38 LSB just make your call and move off frequency.
That is just the way it is.
No one owns any channel, never have never will, that is part of CB that you can not change.
There are lots of guys that use both CB and Ham radio.
I don't like to see people lumped into " groups"
We all just like to play radio.
73
Jeff
Yes if they were using FT 101 radios they are technically breaking the rules.
All CB radios used in the US are required to be type accepted by the FCC.
Everyone knows this is not the case because forever export radios and amps are as common as flies on the CB band.
The Yaesu FT 101's have been used by CB guys since the 1970's regardless.
It is however Not legal to talk on 10 meters without a License.
Personally I don't care what you run as long as it is clean.
And if some one is hogging 38 LSB just make your call and move off frequency.
That is just the way it is.
No one owns any channel, never have never will, that is part of CB that you can not change.
There are lots of guys that use both CB and Ham radio.
I don't like to see people lumped into " groups"
We all just like to play radio.
73
Jeff
Base #1: Realistic TRC 490 with Turner Super Side Kick
Base #2: Uniden PC 122 with unknown brand amplified hand mic and 10 amp Radio Shack power supply.
Marine Mobile: Cherokee AH100 walkie talkie (with SSB) hooked up to Radio Shack 4' telescoping walkie talkie antenna or Shakespeare "Salty Dog" marine antenna.
Car Mobile: Uniden 510XL to Stryker SR5.
All stock. All at legal power.
Base #2: Uniden PC 122 with unknown brand amplified hand mic and 10 amp Radio Shack power supply.
Marine Mobile: Cherokee AH100 walkie talkie (with SSB) hooked up to Radio Shack 4' telescoping walkie talkie antenna or Shakespeare "Salty Dog" marine antenna.
Car Mobile: Uniden 510XL to Stryker SR5.
All stock. All at legal power.
Big difference there. CBers do not need a license that they have to be tested for. Hams do. They EARN the right to use the frequencies they have. If you are still not convinced then I shall throw out the old two wrongs don't make a right thing.
Way back in the day I would get on a round-table discussion at night and you would swear we were all hams from the tech talk and gear we were running. Not one of us had a ham ticket at the time however most of us eventually got it. We were running Yaesu FT-101s, Siltronix 1011Ds, Kenwood TS520/820s and I had an Icom IC-735. No tickets but lots of ham gear and all on SSB usually just outside the band except when Terry was on. He only had a legal 40 channel radio but did have an amp.
Maybe always did! I worked in a ham/cb shop when the 101E and EE was first out and I bet Cbers out bought the hams there 3 to 1 or more. I was amazed at how many buying them were not hams.
it may have not been that way with the earlier 101 models but by then the word was out!!
Around here I hear some people on CB talking about their problems with soundcard digtial modes and comments about catching someone later on some other band like 40 or 75. But, there are not that many people on CB around here regularly.
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Our bunch was often consulted by the local amateur community. We received many a compliment for or about our conversations. It was hotbed of experimentation and innovation. I don't think there was a "straight" radio in the bunch. About the same mix of radios here with a bit more emphasis on Benton Harbor green and a couple of Johnson Viking II CDC's . Right of passage was a home brew sideband rig.
It was different then. Oddly, much like it is here on WWDX.
It's all rock and roll to me .....
Just a few examples:
300 baud audio modems
Uniden cordless phone , 49MHz/46MHz > cross band to my uPD858 base.
900MHz back haul infrastructure to remote access a mountain top, solar powered Xcvr.
SSTV (just to piss off the truckers.)
Auto location via triangulation via successive approximation registers and 300 baud hand shakes followed by essentially a packet with azimuth and signal strength. Try hiding from us .
Another cross band repeater. This time a OS Max diesel powered endurance bird (70MHz RC) 49MHz/46MHz Ul>Dl and a variety of output frequencies.
The switchable power oscillator at 7.8, 10.695, 10.7, and 11.275 fed into a pair of 2879's in the mobile.
The 455KHz AM transmitter.
Mountain Bounce, otherwise known as Land Mountain Land (LML) Most of us could see Mount Rainer or Mount Olympus, or both.
Gee lets hang a coaxial co-linear off the Deception pass bridge and see who can hear us ....
Tacoma narrows bridge -----//-----
We tried to shunt feed the Space Needle and narrowly escaped jail time.
We did get a kite up over 800 feet in the air . Keeping the "long wire" matched was a bioatch. Probably would have fallen across multiple power lines as well as the kite weighing nearly 70 LBS.
Simultaneous broadcasting of pre-recorded material of a heinous and uncivilized nature from multiple stations all synchronized on a sub channel, when we knew the FCC was in town . Find that you shmoos , we're everywhere!
So , yeah
50 watts of ham on VHF. The one thing you're missing which is the most important is interference. There's a lot of electrical interference on 27MHz which doesn't exist on amateur VHF and the noise floor is also much higher on 27MHz than VHF so you can hear weaker signals much better on VHF than 27MHz. And you can have 500W on either but if there's a hill between you and the other station you're not talking to each other.
90 miles on 50W non-repeater isn't really a lot to shout about. Given line of sight you can do that with 10W. My record with a 5W handheld was 70 miles from the top of a hill to a friend's repeater tower.
My first 101B had 11 meters on the band switch.
We used to have a repeater that worked just below 26.956.( don't tell anyone)
We used to swap the rx and tx crystals on our old Johnson radios to um get away.....
This has been going on forever.
I have to restrain myself sometimes because of the lack of effort by guys that complane about things but never do anything about it.
Back in 2010 I started a thread on this forum because the FCC had invited the public to comment on several rule changes that were proposed regarding CB .
The response was dismal.
Everyone likes to moan but hardly a soul would pick up a pen and paper or write a e mail to them to express what they thought.
The FCC rules are 45 years behind the times in regard to CB.
It is no longer the radio service that it started out as.
Like it or not it has become a hobby service.
The FCC needs to pull there head out of the sand and re write the rules to better serve the users of the radio service that it has become today.
BUT
The users of this service do themselves no favors by also sticking there head in the sand and saying
Oh the FCC will never listen to us
Blah blah blah.
The opportunity in 2010 has long gone.
Then in 2013 there was yet another opportunity to submit comments to the FCC about changes to the Cb, FRS and GMRS radio services.
This is the 1 that resulted in getting the 155 mile limit dropped for CB and made it legal to work DX.
Still the input from CB users was dismal.
You got to pay attention.
If you want change you have to jump on opportunities to voice your opinion.
This is why I said you are lucky they dropped the 155 rule.
I (we) use many radio services.
I (we) love to play radio.
All things radio.
I (we) hate it when things on the forum turn into you Hams do this or you CB'ers do that.
This forum and staff has worked very hard for many years to not let it go there.
I (we) encourage all users of radio to help each other out regardless of what kind of radio you like to play.
And have fun doing it.
Off the soapbox.
73
Jeff
We used to have a repeater that worked just below 26.956.( don't tell anyone)
We used to swap the rx and tx crystals on our old Johnson radios to um get away.....
This has been going on forever.
I have to restrain myself sometimes because of the lack of effort by guys that complane about things but never do anything about it.
Back in 2010 I started a thread on this forum because the FCC had invited the public to comment on several rule changes that were proposed regarding CB .
The response was dismal.
Everyone likes to moan but hardly a soul would pick up a pen and paper or write a e mail to them to express what they thought.
The FCC rules are 45 years behind the times in regard to CB.
It is no longer the radio service that it started out as.
Like it or not it has become a hobby service.
The FCC needs to pull there head out of the sand and re write the rules to better serve the users of the radio service that it has become today.
BUT
The users of this service do themselves no favors by also sticking there head in the sand and saying
Oh the FCC will never listen to us
Blah blah blah.
The opportunity in 2010 has long gone.
Then in 2013 there was yet another opportunity to submit comments to the FCC about changes to the Cb, FRS and GMRS radio services.
This is the 1 that resulted in getting the 155 mile limit dropped for CB and made it legal to work DX.
Still the input from CB users was dismal.
You got to pay attention.
If you want change you have to jump on opportunities to voice your opinion.
This is why I said you are lucky they dropped the 155 rule.
I (we) use many radio services.
I (we) love to play radio.
All things radio.
I (we) hate it when things on the forum turn into you Hams do this or you CB'ers do that.
This forum and staff has worked very hard for many years to not let it go there.
I (we) encourage all users of radio to help each other out regardless of what kind of radio you like to play.
And have fun doing it.
Off the soapbox.
73
Jeff
I routinely help out CB'ers with antenna problems or matching problems with linears.
CB or ham I don't care I just like playing with radio gear.
If you CB'ers got the 50 watt wish would you quit sending out your radios for the
Dumbass Super Whack Pack screwed tune?
CB or ham I don't care I just like playing with radio gear.
If you CB'ers got the 50 watt wish would you quit sending out your radios for the
Dumbass Super Whack Pack screwed tune?
I think the wattage limit isn't Much of a problem...
Who the hell runs stock power anyway?
I would be interested in getting FM legalized for 11 meters... like the rest of the world has...
Who the hell runs stock power anyway?
I would be interested in getting FM legalized for 11 meters... like the rest of the world has...
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