Let me just give you all a word of caution about this Omega Force S45HP that just came into the US. This batch is bad and I mean bad. You will get it and have to return it because they are trasmitting cross frequenciy and you can't even be understood. Trust me they are a mess. So don't let me have to say live and learn at your expense. We are vendor and got all bad ones and Magnum wants us to send them to repair instead of replacing them. A radio never out of the box to repair. Un heard of and trust they will never be right after that. So good luck
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Magnum OmegaForce S-45 HP Review
- Thread starter Robb
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What can I say? I just received my NEW OmegaForce S45HP from the Canadian distributor.
I am thrilled with it! Receive is excellent. Transmit works well. On AM that Top Gun Modulator is exceptional, and I have gotten excellent reports about the audio. Same for SSB. People say it it's loud, clear and articulate! What more could I ask for. On AM, I can swing it up to almost 80W PEP. The nominal output is about 15W or so. On SSB, on my peak meter, I'm seeing almost 80W. I have no complaints whatsoever! The only deficiency I noted was that the LCD S-meter did not track the analog one. That's a simple tweek of a pot.
I got the radio from a friend who is a dealer. He found one unit with a loose mic connector. He checked out the rest of the radio, found no other issues, so he tightened the connector and put it back in the box.
The units we received are the latest units from Magnum with the new box graphics. So far, I'm thrilled.
Unless I'm spending $$$ for a Japanese Yaecomwood, I expect these cheaper radios to require some after purchase tweekage. It comes with the territory.
I am thrilled with it! Receive is excellent. Transmit works well. On AM that Top Gun Modulator is exceptional, and I have gotten excellent reports about the audio. Same for SSB. People say it it's loud, clear and articulate! What more could I ask for. On AM, I can swing it up to almost 80W PEP. The nominal output is about 15W or so. On SSB, on my peak meter, I'm seeing almost 80W. I have no complaints whatsoever! The only deficiency I noted was that the LCD S-meter did not track the analog one. That's a simple tweek of a pot.
I got the radio from a friend who is a dealer. He found one unit with a loose mic connector. He checked out the rest of the radio, found no other issues, so he tightened the connector and put it back in the box.
The units we received are the latest units from Magnum with the new box graphics. So far, I'm thrilled.
Unless I'm spending $$$ for a Japanese Yaecomwood, I expect these cheaper radios to require some after purchase tweekage. It comes with the territory.
I think you meant "wait and see".
Believe? I think I can trust my own senses, and technical experience. I've been using the unit for two days now. It works well.
Sorry you're having bad experiences with it.
the 45
We had the same experience with a shipment of s-45's a few months back.
They all needed work out of the box and three were DOA
These things happen from time to time and I am sure they have them right now....I still reckon those measly mosfet finals they use are a major part of the problem....
The S-45 is a great radio when it is built right...no doubt about it.
We had the same experience with a shipment of s-45's a few months back.
They all needed work out of the box and three were DOA
These things happen from time to time and I am sure they have them right now....I still reckon those measly mosfet finals they use are a major part of the problem....
The S-45 is a great radio when it is built right...no doubt about it.
To be honest, that was somewhat our experience as well. One unit was DOA - no RX, no TX, and the others had minor issues like loose mic connectors. The rest were fine.
I am hoping that is the case too, and they've solved some teething problems.
I love mine. My only quibble is that it's only a 5-digit display, which bugs the heck out of me. Why not just put in that 100 hz digit? Oh, and 12M would be nice too... sigh... .
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Here's a thought if you are considering putting together an up-to-date base station...
The Magnum OmegaForce S-45 HP.
It is true this radio was designed to be a mobile radio; but I have found that it makes a compact multi-featured base station radio. Sure; any mobile radio can be used as a base station. But not many mobile radios carry enough new innovations; this is also true for many base stations being sold today on the market. RF Limited/Magnum International has combined the PowerBand RFX-75 amplifier to the OmegaForce chassis. This particular model has undergone many evolutionary changes in less than a decade. This evolution started with the AlphaForce to DeltaForce. Then, from the DeltaForce to the OmegaForce. Now; to the OmegaForce to the OmegaForce HP.
The Package...
What separates the best from the rest - when it comes to export/10 meter radios?
The ability of exceptional receive power as well as talk power.
The OmegaForce HP offers both...
A "Tour de Force"
You will be surprised to find so many features just not found on other brands or all in one package here. Squelched and unsquelched scanning. Multi-mode band selectivity by the end user - and not a shop. Unmatched 10 meter performance with repeater programming function. Dual mic plugs. A factory power condenser mic that is a good or better than most aftermarket mics. Two S/RF meters - one analog meter and one very sensitive digital meter. LCD screen can be switched from channel display to frequency display. Program up to five different channels - including their different broadcast modes/settings. Full fidelity all-mode (FM, AM, SSB) talkback that other brands cannot match...
If you want to use it for 10 meter only; then echo, talkback, and roger beep can all be turned off. It can still be a great radio to use on 10 meters. But if a Ham should operate this radio on 10 meters; they will be getting great audio reports and a receive second to none. Unless you are running a full HF radio - of course. For the money spent, you cannot get as much. When using the clarifier on SSB, this radio stays rock solid after adjusting. The clarifier will move 1.5khz in either direction; but you can adjust the radio in increments of 1Khz manually by a simple push of a button and a spin on the dial if need be - then the clarifier's 1.5Khz slide is more than enough to go anywhere in between. Programmable repeater offsets if you have a repeater in your area - too...
Some of the more standard features found on this radio are far from industry standard...
I used to think that Galaxy radios were the best receiving radio on today's market. I was wrong. The receive in this radio is better than any of the Galaxy's I presently own. I can hear people that others can't. I didn't expect this radio had as good receive as it does. Considering I don't run the world's best antenna - I find this a definite 'plus'. Of course, nothing can make up for the quality of the antenna. It sure does help to be able to everything that the antenna can offer - though. This is a dual-conversion receive radio - with an important difference. Both the receive and transmit circuitry is CPU controlled - which also means more precision for AM, FM, and SSB modes. Only RCI has some radios that are in the same class as the OmegaForce using a CPU to control receive/transmit circuitry.
The truly unique feature to the OmegaForce HP - is it's ability to modulate on AM and SSB modes. For 10 meter operating on SSB, simply turn the selector dial to 'STX'. This will apply compression when transmitting. With the stock mic's condenser element - being understood is no problem whatsoever. If one wants a truly wide range dynamics for AM mode, switch the selector to 'MTX'. When in the 'MTX' selection; the compressor and the TopGun modulator is also on. Making one sound distinct enough to cut through any mucky-mud/pile-up. The 'MTX' will work on AM only; and not on SSB or FM modes.
The other feature that works in this radio - that is unlike any other that I have seen on the market - is the ability to turn down the RF power output knob all the way down in AM mode - and watch it swing upward. I checked all RF Limited's claims with my Dosy meter - which I'm quite sure is 15% off (meaning that there is probably more power out than my meter will show). This radio will dead key at one watt and swing up to nearly sixty watts! I had to see it to believe it; but I did. Probably closer to 75 if a Bird meter was available. Turn the RF output knob to the halfway point and see eight watts dead key and ninety watts. Turn the power knob to the 3 o'clock position when on SSB and hear them come back to you during skip with 65 watts swing. Just imagine that available dynamic audio range with the best mic in your arsenal...
Yes; it has toys that can be turned off. But they are top-notch too. The digital echo is rivaled BY NO OTHER manufacturer. Sam Lewis -of "RF Limited/Magnum International"- explained to me that they use a high-end echo chip that is used in high-end karaoke machines. Not mushy or muddy; but pristine and clean. Keeping one's 'high-end' frequency response audibly clean. I felt that the highly acclaimed Galaxy echo boards sound muddy by direct comparison. Another area that I feel that Galaxy dropped the ball and Magnum picked it up and ran with it is the all-mode talkback feature. It is simply no contest comparing the audio of these two, the fidelity of the Magnum's talkback is superb. The roger beep function gives a quick beep rather than an elongated tone.
All of the Magnum S-6 and S-9 series have the TopGun compressor and TopGun modulators. As well as the Alpha, Delta, and OmegaForce radios. The S-3 series has only the TopGun modulator. I believe that the TopGun devices sets the Magnums apart from the other radio manufacturers - as far as being clean, clear, and pleasantly audible. They also have the characteristic of being able to key with 1 watt and swing to 50 watts.
I usually run the RF output at the nine o'clock position on AM for a cool 2-75 watt swing/PEP. I also usually run the RF output no more than three o'clock on SSB. I never turn it all the way up. That isn't a wise thing to do on any radio. With that much dynamic range; why mess with it by turning it up all of the way and compressing the power? Let it swing as much as possible to get the best that it has to offer! Keep the RF output knob set low - and keep it cool. One would just be heating up the heatsink and output transistors needlessly.
The Power Band RFX-75 unit...
Some important changes made...
In past versions of this radio, they have gone from the dual 2SC1969 output transistors to the dual ERF 2030 MOSFET units made by EKL. Which - is a division of RF Limited - by the way. With the addition of the PowerBand RFX-75 and the elimination of the 2030 finals to the ERF-7530 MOSFET, the power on AM is a conservative 90 watts. On SSB mode, it will put out 70 watts. And on FM mode, it will do 20 watts.
Owner-friendly modification...
To change bandwidth on this radio, it will require removing the speaker side cover and locating a small board attached with one screw near the front left side. I tested this radio in position 1 for 10 meter use; and then in position 3 for all-band use. In the all-band setting, it will go from 25.165Mhz to 29.699Mhz. You can manually input frequencies at 1Khz, 10Khz, and 100Khz in any band selected. Talking on 10 meter on -let's say- 28.313Mhz is a breeze to adjust; just hit the 'scan' button once - and the last frequency digit will start to blink. Turn the frequency/channel knob up and down to step 1Khz at a time. Dial the right digit in, and the hit scan again - done.
Keeping the jumper on the "con 1" position will provide the radio with the repeater offset functions. "Con 2" position allows for expanded 10 meter usage. In the jumper positions (con 3 & con 4) the repeater offset function will not operate. So for 10 meter use; keep it on the factory default "con 1" or "con 2" for extended 10 meter range. The extended range for 10 meter "con 2" isn't mentioned in the manual. "Con 3" will give you all of the frequencies between 25.165mhz all the way to 29.699mhz. While "con 4" will give strictly CB/40 channels. There is also a button on that same board to clear memory after changing 'con' positions 1-4. Just hold it for 5 seconds each time you change any of those positions.
It only takes a few moments to read the owners manual to find out how to do that - and more. Indeed; the owners manual is also easy to understand and utilize all of the functions (I have the owner's manual in a pdf file at the bottom of this page). The soft button functions aren't as cryptic as some radios I've used; although it is a bit much for operating in a mobile environment. I wish my Yaesu FT-8800R 2 meter radio was that easy and intuitive! To change the band usage on this radio it requires that one must open up the radio, find this board (the two pictures below) and move one jumper to one of four locations.
That is it!
The procedure for this mod is attached at the bottom of this page in a pdf file
Taking it for a spin...
This radio's performance during recent skip conditions were fun to say the least. Conditions were quite favorable this day. I talked to pretty much up and down the East Coast on this radio with just an IMAX 2000 antenna (I am going get a beam antenna soon and will run this radio with that). I have heard my base station from my mobile - It did sound distinctly different from the other stations.
This radio might be a little hard to find at your local truck stop. Since it has a few soft-touch buttons that require a sequence to get to a particular function - it is not well suited for truckers. I ran a Samlex SEC 1223/23 amp power supply and it all runs quite cool together as a base station. It draws about 15 amps during full modulation. I used an Astatic D-104 Black Eagle for all of my testing, and the only internal adjustment I made was turning up the AMC/Modulation pot in the radio - just a smidge.
A nearby/local operator had asked me what I had done different to my station. He said that he was reading me at 50 S-units -instead of the usual 30 S-units - from his Galaxy 99V (used as a base station). He said it sounded the same as my first OmegaForce, but louder and clearer. What I find most amusing about this radio - is that these comments seem to come all of the time and I never ask for them. "Gee - what a great sounding radio you have; what is it?"
A local mobile radio conversation with "Russ" informed me that the radio was clean and without distortions that could be heard. Same was true for SSB performance, as he talked to me on his Galaxy 979 while giving me this radio check through 13 miles of urban sprawl through the Santa Clara Valley in CA. Russ has been around CB since dirt was new, and has also admired this radio's sound. I trust his judgment when it comes to radios and equipment because of that experience. He also told me that he wants to get one of these; and if I know him - he probably will. His overall report to me, was that the audio was loud, sensitive, and dynamic in AM mode. SSB was clear and easily understood.
The "not-so-stock" mic
To use the mic that came with this radio to its fullest, just take off the back of the mic and turn the little trim pot inside all of the way up. Put it back together and adjust the mic gain on the radio with your RF meter. The 'Magnum' label on the front of the mic will rock back and forth to each side - to allow for channel change upward and downward. It is a little hard to see this feature by looking at it. I had to read it in the manual to find that out.
This mic receives power from the board to power the condenser element. It is not a passive condenser element like the Cobra stock mics. It is a true condenser mic in that sense. Looking at the radio from the front, the left mic plug can only be used with the factory mic. Do NOT use another mic in this location! Damage to the board will occur. The mic plug on the right side of the radio will work with any mic that is wired for Cobra, Galaxy, Connex, Ranger -and of course- Magnums. Makes it easy to swap mics to until you find your personal favorite. I used a Astatic D-104 and prefer it to others with this radio. I also found the stock mic -when turned up inside the mic itself as previously mentioned- to be an excellent mobile mic. That stock mic got a lot of compliments too - before I put the D-104 on it.
Final thoughts...
The board and components are another fine feature. They use a high-quality RB-4 material for the main board. Components on the board are of high quality too. Sam Lewis's AR 3500 was a legend in its time - as well as building a radio ahead of its time. Since time has moved on, Sam has made Magnum radios the new radio legend. It was hard to find any negatives with this radio. I have tried. The only negative that comes to mind are the loose feel of the controls. But that is about it. Some people like the well greased/dampened feel on control knobs when turned. Although feeling a bit loose and undampened - it certainly doesn't affect their function whatsoever. Don't let that blindside you from trying it yourself.
In Conclusion...
It really is that well made and the performance beats my Galaxy's. I must also confess that I've been using a OmegaForce (non-HP) for a whole year. So I've had a long time to compare it to others. The HP is better; in that the dynamic range is greater with more watts available from just one watt dead key. It has set a new high water-mark. Maybe if Sam Lewis were to put one of the new 175 watt units in on the bottom cover on the OmegaForce will only make it better still. Now - that's an idea! The only criticism that comes to mind - is that Sam Lewis needs to make more of these radios available to the public. It is hard to find them online; that can be changed...
This radio has far too many positives and practically no negatives at all. If one consider the loose feel of the control pots a negative - then perhaps there is one. If one expects the frequency counter to have four places and be real time; then that might be considered another. But when one considers that it is a CPU controlled PLL, VCO, AM/FM/SSB circuit reading the chosen frequency instead of a real time counter - that is no longer an issue either. A well functioning radio in every respect and all that has been claimed by RF Limited/Magnum Int'l is valid.
I would thoroughly recommend giving an OmegaForce S-45 HP a try.
I give it 5 out of 5 stars possible.
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More Info Needed?
If looking for an OmegaForce HP, just use Google search got "Magnum Radios". Any of the first 15 dealers that come up will be able to order it for you if they don't have it in stock themselves.
The radio I received from Sam Lewis for this review was factory tuned by Chris Holland - RF Limited's Chief Tech at "The Radio Shop" at 4055 Guasti Rd Ontario CA.
Phone is 909-390-5056.
Inquiries can be made to Sam Lewis or his staff at RF Limited 1145 12th Ave NW -Suite C7- Issaquah WA.
Phone is 425-295-0390.
*This radio was given to the writer for this explicit purpose of review*
Robb, you gave this radio 5/5 stars. Has the quality of this radio actually lived up to the hype? I was ready to shelve out some hard earned Aussie Dollars ( which in recent times is stronger than the USD
, ) but I am taking a step back. Would you now rate this radio 5/5 stars considering that some of the reports are that the radio has some bugs, or is not delivering the power outputs as advertised. I mean this radio ticked all the boxes on face value, but I don't want it to be like the Cobra 200 GTL where some worked, some didn't....and like the DoDo bird that rig ended up extinct. BJB
Excellent receive, bodacious transmit, xlnt SSB. Fine SSB rig.Robb, you gave this radio 5/5 stars. Has the quality of this radio actually lived up to the hype? I was ready to shelve out some hard earned Aussie Dollars ( which in recent times is stronger than the USD
BJB
If you like AM; you will like it.
Five stars - yes. I have other Export radios ("Galaxies"); but I like this one best. It's just well thought out. Did you ever hear of a radio that didn't have bugs? Few - if any. The question is, does the mfr back up what they sell? I know Magnum does. The rest is JMHO . . .
When I first got back into the hobby a couple of years ago, I had done a bunch of research before I spent a dime for a radio. That's just the way I roll. I was also considering the Cobra 200. But the mfr had recalled many of them. So, I tried a Magnum and had an excellent time with it. Still do. Got my Ham license and ran it on 10m, just had a blast with it.
The NEW ones will have 12m added. They will be coming out in a few months.
I like mine very much. I have a few aesthetic quibbles, but nothing serious... I have heard unconfirmed rumours that Magnum will also be adding that 6th digit (100hz) on the freq. display. That would answer my only quibble!
If they do that (which would require some firmware change in the µ-processor [and also affect the Magnum 257HP]), this would make either of them the perfect 10M radio (depending on your aesthetic tastes).
B
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how about something different but hopefully simple .
automatically disabling the echo circuit when going to SSB mode ?
automatically disabling the echo circuit when going to SSB mode ?
what's te deal
What's up with the S45's being sold on EBAY
Some dude by the name "jokermancbradio1273"
Anybody ever deal with him?
I have seen that he has had these for sale for some time, but his low feedback has remained the same, like he hasn't sold many.
What's up with the S45's being sold on EBAY
Some dude by the name "jokermancbradio1273"
Anybody ever deal with him?
I have seen that he has had these for sale for some time, but his low feedback has remained the same, like he hasn't sold many.
Omegaforce S45HP
Can someone let me know if their ACTUAL SMeter on their rig moves while transmitting in either the LBS or USB SSB mode? Mine moves in the AM and FM modes, but doesnt budge in SSB, The only reading I get in SSB mode is the lighted meter below the frequency display.
Thanks
Can someone let me know if their ACTUAL SMeter on their rig moves while transmitting in either the LBS or USB SSB mode? Mine moves in the AM and FM modes, but doesnt budge in SSB, The only reading I get in SSB mode is the lighted meter below the frequency display.
Thanks