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Wilson 1000 Base Station Antenna

Riverman

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Still trying to come up with a base antenna that fits my limitations (15' mast and can't be big or obtrusive).

What about this?

1. Take a Wilson 1000 magnetic mount mobile antenna (or another brand)

2. Attach this between the coil and magnetic base

3. Remove the six piddly radials and replace them with 3' (or 4') fiberglass helicals (I know, 102" steel whips would be better, but I don't have the space)

4. Attach to this (or a homemade one)

5. Attach to mast

I know it's still just a mobile antenna but am hoping it will work at least as well (if not better) than one mounted on a car or truck. The Wilson 1000 gets very good reviews.

Thoughts?

Thanks!
 

Still trying to come up with a base antenna that fits my limitations (15' mast and can't be big or obtrusive).

What about this?

1. Take a Wilson 1000 magnetic mount mobile antenna (or another brand)

2. Attach this between the coil and magnetic base

3. Remove the six piddly radials and replace them with 3' (or 4') fiberglass helicals (I know, 102" steel whips would be better, but I don't have the space)

4. Attach to this (or a homemade one)

5. Attach to mast

I know it's still just a mobile antenna but am hoping it will work at least as well (if not better) than one mounted on a car or truck. The Wilson 1000 gets very good reviews.

Thoughts?

Thanks!

sure it will work . but it will never be as good as a base antenna. much less better.
however i will say if ya try a wilson 5000 TRUCKER version antenna with a long shaft
mounted on a mirrior mount on a pipe this imho would probaly be your best your gonna get
2nd only to the 102 whip idea.again neither of these will ever work as good as a base antenna
 
why not make a dipole with 2 4 foot whips? it will work but a full length dipole would work better. Once used a 102" in a vice grip mount clamped to a gutter mount utilizing the entire gutter system as a ground and ran a wire from the downspout to the ground. Use your imagination and play around you will be surprised with the things you can make cheaply.
 
Sure would like to sue the 1000 if I can (very inconspicuous). Maybe instead of the radial setup I mentioned above, (still would like some more imput on that) I'll just use a couple of lengths of copper wire (only have 2 directions I can attach them). Is 30 degrees about the right angle?
 
Well, this whole idea was a bust.

Just found out from Wilson that the ground plane kit they sell for the Wilson 1000/5000 doesn't accept 3/8 x 24 thread radials. The ones that come with it are really small. I guess the holes could be drilled out larger but then . . .

the darn thing would be expensive (ground plane kit+Wilson 1000+Firestik antennas for radials) and probably wouldn't work worth a flip.

May this thread die in peace.
 
you could always put a FireStick IBA-5 on a mast. should work pretty good.
I've used a K-40 on an AC unit with good results when the weather was cool. lots of static when the AC ran.
 
It's Alive!

Haven't given up!

How about a Wilson 1000 with two 3" Firestik antennas for radials below it pointed at 45 degree angle? (Was going to use two 102" wire radials but can't do that where my mast will be located. Hence, the Firestik radials.

I know they aren't 102" but supposedly perform as 1/4 antennas regardless of their length. So thought they might work.
 
You know, I have been thinking about something along the same lines. You have options here. You could go with a ground mounted vertical. I built one out of a 102'' whip and had 32 radials 108'' long extending horizontally from the base, pinned to the ground, and was surprised at how well it did. I mean, the base of the antenna was at ground level and it out performed every mobile antenna I have ever used on my vehicles. The same guy who said I was hitting him with 8 lbs from 4 miles away when using a compact tuned radio (swinging 16 watts) in my truck said I was hitting him with 9 lbs on the ground mounted whip in the backyard when using a stock compact radio (not tuned up) and the radials don't get in the way either. Pin them to the ground and by next year (after cutting the grass a few times) you wont even know they are there. I run over mine with the mower all the time, no issues. I really like this antenna btw.

Or, something like you were saying, I have read that the 4' everhardt fiberglass flex antenna performs really well. you can get it online for about $14. Go to home depot or lowe's and get (4) 3/8" x 24 x 2" threaded rod couplers (look just like top piece of a mobile mount that antenna screws in to) and fasten/weld them to a square electrical junction box cover at 90 degree intervals. these will receive the mobile fiberglass antennas being used for radials. Put the vertical radiator in the middle, and you have a ground plane antenna. I was thinking of using either a 4' or 5' vertical radiator and either 2' or 3' radials. This should tune pretty well, and should out perform the same antenna mounted on a car because it will be up higher. You will probably have a total of $60-$70 in it (less than an A99 or an IMAX) and it will meet your requirements. I am seriously considering this as my next antenna build, as my wife will not go for a big honkin antenna above the roof either. And as a side note, if you have a directv dish on the roof of the house, consider a 2'-3' mast off of the dish's mount as a mounting platform for your cb antenna. If you have self contained radials as described above, this is a great location. I would expect 5-10 mile consistent communication ability base to mobile with this antenna, maybe even more.

Either way, you have options. You really have to try the ground mounted vertical though, it surprised the crap out of me.
 
Thanks, everyone, for all the great ideas.

I have come up with something and will posting pics soon.
 
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After much thought, here's what I came up with:

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A homemade ground plane using 4' Firestiks.

Materials:

A. One Simpson Strong Tie (6" x 12"). These are available at any Lowe's or Home Depot.
B. Two hose clamps (For attaching antenna bracket to mast)
C. Three 4’ fiberglass mobile antennas (any brand)
D. One PL259 stud mount (I used a Firestik KV-4A)
E. Two lug stud mounts (I used a Firestik KV-4)
F. One PL259 right angle coax connector (male to female).

Instructions:

1. Drill a ½” hole in the center of the 12” length of the strong tie.
2. Make a 90 degree bend so that the 6” length is pointed down (this is what attaches to the mast.)
3. Using a vice, make two bends in the 12” length 3 ½” from each end, leaving 5” across the top. Bend each downward and inward so that the two form a 90 degree angle. This will insure that the radials will be pointing outward at 45 degrees insuring an impendence of about 50 ohms.

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4. Install the PL259 stud mount in the top center hole. This will hold your vertical element. Be sure and use a plastic sleeve with the top portion so the antenna does not contact the metal bracket. Do not use a sleeve between the coaxial connector and the bracket. This will insure the coax’s shield is grounded to the bracket.
5. Attach the Right Angle Coax Connector.
6. Holes for the radials come pre-drilled on the strong tie. Simply install lug studs in them. Be sure and use only one plastic sleeve (or none) on each so the antennas will be in direct contact with the metal bracket.
7. I chose to add a self-tapping screw in one of the small pre-drilled holes to attach a ground wire to which will run to a ground rod.

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All that's left is to screw in the antennas!

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I haven't put it in the air yet as I am waiting on my coax and SWR meter. But I did set it on my patio and hook my 35-year-old Royce CB to it using a 3' jumper. I was immediately greeted by what I thought was a loud local but turned out being someone in Oregon. (I'm in Texas). I didn't try and talk as I can't check my SWR.

In the meantime, I might change out the vertical Firestik for a Wilson 1000 (leaving the two remaining Firestiks as radials) as originally planned. Or maybe a Wilson Trucker 2000. Or a Sirio 5000. Or Predator. Or the old standby, a 102" steel whip. The possibilities are endless.

Will an antenna of this design work? I think so.

1. For the most part, even though mobile CB antennas are often rated 5/8 wave or longer, I'm told they basically “act” as ¼ wave antennas regardless of their length or the amount of wire used. So it stands to reason they can be substituted for full ¼ wave (102”) elements and radials.

2. Antennas with only one radial are largely directional (stronger in the direction the radial is pointed.) And while 3 or 4 (or more) radials are recommended for a fully Omni-directional antenna, some say 2 radials are nearly as effective and produce more of an Omni-directional pattern than the 180 degree pattern that might be expected.

Final Thoughts:

I’m guessing the first question will be, “Why spend so much money on a homemade antenna and not just buy an A99 instead? Answer: You’re right. I have about $80 invested in this thing (not counting the mast, coax, etc.) But I greatly enjoyed the time spent researching, designing, and putting it all together. And I’ll take great pleasure in using it.

And of course, someone will point out, “You don’t really have a base station antenna. It’s still just a mobile antenna.” Right you are. But I agree with what MSGED2007 said earlier. It's performance will likely be the equivalent of mounting a Firestik in the center of the roof of my car and then hoisting the vehicle 15’ in the air. And I’m good with that.

The items I'm waiting on should be here in a day or two but as luck would have it, the weather now has gone to pot--Freezing rain and COLD! And according to the forecast, temps won't even reach the 40s for a week or so. Will probably be a while before I can report back.

Over and out.
 
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