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Avanti Sigma4: An alternative view point

Thanks George, I found it. In older operating systems we could type something like ---- ctrl, shift, and another key and the character screen popped up.

I guess our friend CDX 007 is having computer problems, he is AWOL.
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jazz i wish you had not told me that lol:sneaky2:



"NAPCO ®"
extended ½λ over ¼λ phase coherent antenna,

a design offering mechanical and electrical advantages over prior art antennas,

it has long been understood that in prior art antennas the 5/8wave ground-plane provides the highest usable gain on the horizon of any single element vertical and that extending beyond ⅝λ introduces high angle lobes to the radiation pattern while reducing energy in the important low angles towards the horizon,

here at "NAPCO®" we approached the problem of errant radiation in the extended radiator with an open mind and an eye towards the "open sleeve",
years of field tests demonstrated to us that the problems associated with prior art antennas could be overcome while at the same time provide a more structurally sound assembly, the means to achieve this is nothing new to those skilled in the art but it is unconventional and seldom used even less well understood,

engineers at "NAPCO®" understood the problems of simply extending radiator length beyond ⅝λ,
utilising techniques known to professionals since the 1940's "NAPCO®" extended the radiator and upswept the radials to contain the out of phase radiation from the lower portion of radiator while at the same time adding constructive radiation from the upswept radials in a phase coherent none apparent Co-linear effect,
these actions provide several improvements over conventional antennas,

it is desirable that an antenna should be able to handle harsh weather conditions and it can,
there are no large horizontal radials under high mechanical stress,
the "NAPCO®" uses low stress .063" and .058" wall aircraft grade 6061-t6 drawn tube in its radials and hoop occupying a mere 30" of lateral space supported securely by virtually bullet proof kevlar/micro-dyneema composite spreaders, not only is the upswept design stronger its also easier to accommodate in the living environment,

in its central monopole the "NAPCO®" uses the same aircraft grade .058" wall 6061-t6 drawn aluminum reinforced at critical load points with 6061-t6 and 6063-t832 drawn tube,
"bob-cad®" structural analysis was used to create an optimum load curve along the element taper ensuring a class leading highest load bearing capacity per unit length,
tube diameters range from 1-5/8 - 1/2", giving the strongest vertical made from the highest quality materials available in citizens band antennas,

the compact design is less influenced by its environment than conventional antennas giving superior high power performance at any height above ground in a wider range of conditions than any currently available single element vertical antenna,

the "NAPCO®" can be supplied with gamma options to suit your station and your wallet, much like burger-king you can "have it your way" from a Teflon 1500w to a costly high power vacume variable gamma we can in most circumstances feed your needs and desires,

"NAPCO®" like andrex, its longer and stronger,
its how antennas should be made!

 
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just testing the new fonts and spelling errors :LOL:


Hmmm, fonts are sound like ezbob, but the spelling is more reminiscent of lazybob,NAPCO® spell checker sucks bigtime mate:

Professinals should have been professionals.

Aparent should be apparent.

Desireable should be desirable.

Aluminum should be aluminium.

Suite should be suit.

Vacume should be vacuum.



Although I'm beginning to wonder if it is the spell checker or if you struggle with the English language due to all the Scottish blood in your veins from the last time we raped and pillaged yorkshire,pmsl.

Either way its a bad day when a Scot has to teach you your own language,:LOL::LOL::love::whistle:
 
I am also left to wonder if none apparent collinear shouldn't be non-apparent collinear?

But then again, I'm just a spectator. . .
 
"colinear" or "collinear" is ok homer,

"vacume" is the variable capacitor i ordered from canada,
"vacuum" is the flask patented by "thermos" that men in skirts up north fill with beef tea to keep them warm between fights at soccer matches,

"aluminum" is what i ordered from the usa,
"aluminium" is the british equivalent of the same material,
the "i" makes it 4x as expensive, "i" is why you don't see british made cb antennas,
i should not type in a single line window while laughing :oops:
 
I just thought the spelling was your accent on paper ;)

Oh you got that so wrong Homer, I take it you've never heard a broad yorkshire accent. dearie me it's an experience, f@ck i stayed there for 6 weeks in the mid 80's and i'm only mid way thriough decoding what the locals were saying to me.

I got the impression they were very friendly people, but understanding their language was something i just never grasped. It got even worse when you threw a couple of geordies from Newcastle into the mix. An experience i'll never forget.
 
Oh you got that so wrong Homer, I take it you've never heard a broad yorkshire accent. dearie me it's an experience, f@ck i stayed there for 6 weeks in the mid 80's and i'm only mid way thriough decoding what the locals were saying to me.

I got the impression they were very friendly people, but understanding their language was something i just never grasped. It got even worse when you threw a couple of geordies from Newcastle into the mix. An experience i'll never forget.

I guess that's something I'll have to put on the bucket list.
 
After looking at Shockwaves posted model, finding the thread, reading through the last 10 pages, etc. I've come to a couple conclusions. I was one of, if not the first person to model the antenna, and have been running through my models for the last couple weeks, as I had an I10K come down, and had to go back to my Sigma...... I have an ORIGINAL Sigma IV. The only difference is mine has an N connector at the base. Otherwise, stock, all the way to fitting in the stock 'stops' for length.

Yes, the antenna 'basket' or cone does confine radiation.

Yes, the TOP section is a HALF WAVE. The model shockwave posted, as well as the model(s) I've done up and checked out confirm this. A half wave radiator radiates evenly, from maxima to minima.... and then back again to voltage maxima at the feedpoint (read this as HIGH impedance, REAL high impedance).

After having some debate in the A1 antenna forum about it, I set out to check it out even more. Well, turns out an enterprising amateur did some test range experimentation and found that on THE HALF WAVE MONOPOLE (or ground plane) you only need .05 wavelength radials to approximate THE SAME EFFECT AS FULL LENGTH 1/4 WAVE (per side) RADIALS! Check the radius of the hoop on the Sigma. :) This EFFECTS the ground radial or ground planes that we see on the quarter wave, five eighths, and (erroneously) on the half wave ground planes. Modeling confirms this: It ALSO confirms that if you try to shorten a qtr wave, 5/8 or anything OTHER than a half wave, it WON'T WORK!!!! The pattern goes to hell in a handbasket.

THEREFORE!!!! The model that shockwave posted, the modeling I've seen and performed myself, and the theory of slotted antennas and others points to this: The BOTTOM section (the basket) works on the principle of a transmission line, and it transforms the impedance seen at the halfwave feedpoint (which is at the basket) down to a MUCH lower feedpoint impedance which is also slightly inductive.

Proof in the pudding you say???

OK, here ya go!

Get some GOOD ferrite beads and put them JUST below the basket attachment point to the 'radials'. This will prevent radiation, JUST LIKE A BALUN OR CHOKE ON A COAXIAL FEEDLINE!!!. Do NOT try this with full power, you'll crack'em good! The INSIDE of the basket will STILL contain the radiation pattern (and the 4 radial version does better than the original siggie design), BUT you will get LITTLE 'feedline radiation' from the OUTSIDE of the basket, or as Shockwave had put it, the colinear effect....

The antenna BASICALLY performs just like the marketing BS from the Antron.... It's a half wave over a quarter wave... The ODD thing that makes this NOT apparent and nobody takes into account one thing (in the basket): VELOCITY FACTOR. Because the basket flares out and is a transmission line, the internal conductor will HAVE to be shortened to maintain ELECTRIC length.

The "sigma" design found a novel approach of getting rid of the BIGGEST problem in the antenna industry: Matching a low impedance to a high impedance. The half wave has > 1K ohm of input resistance, coupled with reactance. The 5/8 'ground plane' is close to 50 ohms, and a bit of capacitive reactance, easily tuned out with a coil or other inductor. In talking with Jay, the BIGGEST problem he sees with the half wave as a radiator for us on 11 meters is the transformation ratio from 1Kohm to 50 ohms. I concur, having had to design quite a few matching networks.... The bigger the ratio, the more loss is inherent.

Lastly, in looking at the antenna this way, it shows why I see the effects I do... The 5/8 does NOT gain me CRAP locally.... I lost. In DX, I gained. The half wave antenna has a bigger lobe contained at the lower portion of radiation... I'm 6K feet above EVERYONE.

Anywho, open to any discussion or thoughts.


--Toll_Free
 
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Toll_free, if you modeled your Sigma 4 using Exnec would you share that file with me? I'll send you my version of Dxer's model if you email me at edromans@comcast.net.

Dxer, used real wire diameters and taper, including a true circular hoop. I just made a few dimension adjustments and added a base hub where the radials attach at the bottom. Dxer had his radials directly intersecting the bottom part of the radiator. His model also shows little gain, and when I fixed these items the gain improved nicely. My modified model does not show the maximum gain of 5.75 dbi @ 8 degrees that the model Shockwave provided from Henry, but 4.75 dbi @ 7 degrees seems pretty good for me.

I would like someone with Eznec modeling experience to truthfully critic my model.
 
After looking at Shockwaves posted model, finding the thread, reading through the last 10 pages, etc. I've come to a couple conclusions. I was one of, if not the first person to model the antenna, and have been running through my models for the last couple weeks, as I had an I10K come down, and had to go back to my Sigma...... I have an ORIGINAL Sigma IV. The only difference is mine has an N connector at the base. Otherwise, stock, all the way to fitting in the stock 'stops' for length.

Yes, the antenna 'basket' or cone does confine radiation.


Yes, the TOP section is a HALF WAVE. The model shockwave posted, as well as the model(s) I've done up and checked out confirm this. A half wave radiator radiates evenly, from maxima to minima.... and then back again to voltage maxima at the feedpoint (read this as HIGH impedance, REAL high impedance).


After having some debate in the A1 antenna forum about it, I set out to check it out even more. Well, turns out an enterprising amateur did some test range experimentation and found that on THE HALF WAVE MONOPOLE (or ground plane) you only need .05 wavelength radials to approximate THE SAME EFFECT AS FULL LENGTH 1/4 WAVE (per side) RADIALS! Check the radius of the hoop on the Sigma.
:) This EFFECTS the ground radial or ground planes that we see on the quarter wave, five eighths, and (erroneously) on the half wave ground planes. Modeling confirms this: It ALSO confirms that if you try to shorten a qtr wave, 5/8 or anything OTHER than a half wave, it WON'T WORK!!!! The pattern goes to hell in a handbasket.

THEREFORE!!!! The model that shockwave posted, the modeling I've seen and performed myself, and the theory of slotted antennas and others points to this: The BOTTOM section (the basket) works on the principle of a transmission line, and it transforms the impedance seen at the halfwave feedpoint (which is at the basket) down to a MUCH lower feedpoint impedance which is also slightly inductive.


Proof in the pudding you say???


OK, here ya go!


Get some GOOD ferrite beads and put them JUST below the basket attachment point to the 'radials'. This will prevent radiation, JUST LIKE A BALUN OR CHOKE ON A COAXIAL FEEDLINE!!!. Do NOT try this with full power, you'll crack'em good! The INSIDE of the basket will STILL contain the radiation pattern (and the 4 radial version does better than the original siggie design), BUT you will get LITTLE 'feedline radiation' from the OUTSIDE of the basket, or as Shockwave had put it, the colinear effect....


The antenna BASICALLY performs just like the marketing BS from the Antron.... It's a half wave over a quarter wave... The ODD thing that makes this NOT apparent and nobody takes into account one thing (in the basket): VELOCITY FACTOR. Because the basket flares out and is a transmission line, the internal conductor will HAVE to be shortened to maintain ELECTRIC length.


The "sigma" design found a novel approach of getting rid of the BIGGEST problem in the antenna industry: Matching a low impedance to a high impedance. The half wave has > 1K ohm of input resistance, coupled with reactance. The 5/8 'ground plane' is close to 50 ohms, and a bit of capacitive reactance, easily tuned out with a coil or other inductor. In talking with Jay, the BIGGEST problem he sees with the half wave as a radiator for us on 11 meters is the transformation ratio from 1Kohm to 50 ohms. I concur, having had to design quite a few matching networks.... The bigger the ratio, the more loss is inherent.


Lastly, in looking at the antenna this way, it shows why I see the effects I do... The 5/8 does NOT gain me CRAP locally.... I lost. In DX, I gained. The half wave antenna has a bigger lobe contained at the lower portion of radiation... I'm 6K feet above EVERYONE.


Anywho, open to any discussion or thoughts.



--Toll_Free

Hey Toll_Free, when you mentioned the 5/8 gained some performance in DX were you referring to local contacts (what most mistakenly refer to as 'ground wave') or sporadic E, or were you referring to 1K mile+ skip ie: F1-F2 layer?

How do they compare at ~50-75miles?

Do you believe the cone radiates a significant amount of power, or mostly acts just to contain the lower reverse phase energy with only negligible additional in-phase radiation?
 

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