best 11meter vertical ever, period.

[BOOTY MONSTER]

Is that the only argument you can come up with, "...so why don't you get a merlin marconi ?"

What a waste of your time. Don't you know they are the one's in control in this instance? They have you dancing like a monkey on a rope. Their ego's demand that they always have somebody responding to their insanity...and you are the victim.

i have a lot of free time and they are entertaining . plus it shows what forums show favoritisim to certian members and don't respect their own rules . they're just thee to fool people that they grasp right and wrong ..... but they really dont . and i bet if you ask them that they are christians too .

you seem to have had/tried most other antennas , and have faith in the merlin .... why don't you get one ?

 

[Marconi]

i have a lot of free time and they are entertaining . plus it shows what forums show favoritisim to certian members and don't respect their own rules . they're just thee to fool people that they grasp right and wrong ..... but they really dont . and i bet if you ask them that they are christians too .

you seem to have had/tried most other antennas , and have faith in the merlin .... why don't you get one ?

Frankly, nobody believes much of what I say already, and if the Merlin showed some improvement over any other antenna I have, that would make my other reports sort of meaningless.

But, the primary reason is the ridicules cost, so what is the point.

BTW, neither you or this bunch of heathens talking about their ridiculous results with a Merlin would I consider to be acting like any real Christan that I ever had in mind. Christan's are not supposed to act this way, even though we all have reprobate minds to deal with.

I will remind you though, that my original modified StarDuster did come in as co-best along with my Wolf .64 GP in my antenna testing in the spring of 2011, and that testing was over 5 months and averaged all test combined for the full period, and it is still up there working evey bit as good as my excellent working Gain Master.

 

[BOOTY MONSTER]

eddie , your differences make sense . and , you actually want to tell the truth .

christians , yes , we see how well the american indians are doing after dealing with men of god .... the more of y'all that get behind a idea the worse off it is for folks that have something y'all want .

reprobate minds ... yes that is very christian too . designate anyone who doesn't agree with you as having failed or having been rejected . y'all are right and must go to every length possible to convince or dominate all who disagree .

 

[HomerBB]

Before this thread disintegrates because I used the Merlin as an example of people who swear by it because of what I believe is a unique set of requirements, and at the same time fail to realize, or at least to mention, that they are not really witnessing superiority over other antennas over all, let me say that I have no intention of supporting a fight over how good or bad the Merlin is. Clearly it satisfies the needs/wants of a niche market, and they think it's the cat's meow.

It is just that I wanted to say why people manufacture some antennas, and why some folks use them with success.

The Saturn antenna works. I have used one and it did as well in a mobile application as any other I had used at the time. I also used one as a portable antenna when I was on the road years ago. I was able to put it up almost anywhere and move the coax here and there until the radio would purr with contentment and settle in to local and DX business. It served a purpose of a while, and when I got back home I talked from the base on something better - the A99 at 54' to the coax.
And that's another one either hated or loved. There was a better performing omni antenna in the general area than my A99 at the time. It was an A99 at 120' to the coax connector. . .

Oh yeah, there was a third antenna that regularly outperformed bofus, it was an Astroplane at about 20' to the bottom ring.

 

[Marconi]

Before this thread disintegrates because I used the Merlin as an example of people who swear by it because of what I believe is a unique set of requirements, and at the same time fail to realize, or at least to mention, that they are not really witnessing superiority over other antennas over all, let me say that I have no intention of supporting a fight over how good or bad the Merlin is. Clearly it satisfies the needs/wants of a niche market, and they think it's the cat's meow.

It is just that I wanted to say why people manufacture some antennas, and why some folks use them with success.

The Saturn antenna works. I have used one and it did as well in a mobile application as any other I had used at the time. I also used one as a portable antenna when I was on the road years ago. I was able to put it up almost anywhere and move the coax here and there until the radio would purr with contentment and settle in to local and DX business. It served a purpose of a while, and when I got back home I talked from the base on something better - the A99 at 54' to the coax.

And that's another one either hated or loved. There was a better performing omni antenna in the general area than my A99 at the time. It was an A99 at 120' to the coax connector. . .

Oh yeah, there was a third antenna that regularly outperformed bofus, it was an Astroplane at about 20' to the bottom ring.

Hey Homer, I think the title of this thread has to do with our ideas for the best CB vertical ever, and since you mentioned it, can you tell us the unique set of requirements you have in mind for the Merlin, or was that just a tongue in cheek sort of comment?

BTW, I think highly of the A/P, as you well know, but I would never go so far as to make such a claim, as you note above, unless there were some extenuating circumstances that weren't mentioned.

54' vs. <>27' is a far stretch in difference for me to expect the A/P to outperform, even the lowly A99, unless maybe there was some significant power difference not mentioned.

How say you?

 

[Peddler]

In my opinion ... the best is the one that goes together the quickest, sets the easiest, and is not terribly heavy and is cost approachable ... all the little tenth of points improvement is reserved for the Hammys .......we're talking CB here.

 

[Robb]

In my opinion ... the best is the one that goes together the quickest, sets the easiest, and is not terribly heavy and is cost approachable ... all the little tenth of points improvement is reserved for the Hammys .......we're talking CB here.

True; but we like to learn here.
I do.

 

[HomerBB]

The set of requirements for those who used the Merlin are in the post I wrote about the Merlin.
Short Skip to stay withing the USA lower 49. Power handling for dropping the maul.

 

[HomerBB]

It was an easy difference between the two antennas where I was living. I could be in my mobile away from the house to the East out as much as 20 - 25 miles. My A99 at 54' height could sometimes be heard over FLAT land. The AP was down below street level beneath a hill and 5 miles farther west of my home. WHen he keyed up running similar wattage he could be clearly heard, and heard me better coming back to him.

To those who know things, one of the things they sometimes know is maybe the AP was setup over an underground meteorite or some other unaccountable variable. I only know it worked best in the area . . .

 

[Mudfoot]

Not being smart... But have we figured out the best 11 meter vertical. I'm about to put my used Gainmaster up. If theres something better, maybe I'll whip it up there.

 

[gamegetter]

Only you will be able to determine what works best at your location...

For dx you can work anything it's highly dependent on conditions...I have worked alot of countries mobile with a wilson 5k.

What's not to like about the GM, no tuning, wide bandwidth, easy install...I would run it if I had it and generally i think that you will find that for most of the antennas compared you will find only slight differences in performance on the local or line of sight comparisons.

Best of luck let us know how it turns out for you!

P.S. I would coat GM with some type RV fiberglass wax or protectant and do that as an annual maintenance to protect the fiberglass.

 

[Marconi]

Well Gamegetter, I agree, but you left out the fact that nobody so far has refuted, the GainMaster does not produce any TVI/RFI, at least so far at my location.

I also find very little difference between all the CB vertical antennas I have compared vs. the big 2-4 Sunits that almost everybody else reports and has been for years.

 

[The DB]

In my opinion ... the best is the one that goes together the quickest, sets the easiest, and is not terribly heavy and is cost approachable ... all the little tenth of points improvement is reserved for the Hammys .......we're talking CB here.

For one thing, just because this is CB doesn't mean all of us will settle for a second rate setup. Many people here know as much as many HAM's (some of us are HAM's, me included) when it comes to antennas, and some of us like to experiment as well. Just because these are CB antennas does not mean we should hold ourselves back.

I will also point out that going from following the directions to using an analyzer to set it to where it the best (SWR, resonance, and in some cases take off angle can also be adjusted) can be more than tenths of a point of improvement.

Some of us actually care, and means how the antenna is by far the most important part of any transmitting radio station, don't be surprised when some of us (not only hams) care for those...

little tenth of points improvement

The DB

 

[HomerBB]

The DB,
I've been meaning to ask, is that The DBi, or The DBd?

Homer

 

[The DB]

The DB,
I've been meaning to ask, is that The DBi, or The DBd?

Homer

Neither actually. My mind stores the strangest of information. DB is short for database. If you ever played me in trivial pursuit you would understand...

I guess I could say it means DBq, just because it isn't one of your options...


The DB