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Dan , A lot of my friends are either EMT/Paramedics or Er Nurse / Dr's . I must say this is " The Worse Case Scenario " ! They have meeting almost daily on this ( but I'm sure you know this ) The way I figure it & this is " Very Sad " it's kind of a Pep Rally to get them prepared ? But then again Iv'e never been " Normal " . :whistle: But you are correct , That voice of Doom is pumped into them often ! Stay Healthy & Safe ! 73 & God Bless , Leo
 
We had better be paying attention to the worst-case scenarios and taking steps to ensure they don't become reality. The high percentages we are seeing are just what could theoretically happen. But the low percentages we see posted here and there are irrelevant and misleading. For example, at the moment in Alabama there are 2,881 confirmed cases, 79 reported deaths of which 58 have been confirmed to be caused by the coronavirus. Let's use the confirmed number, 58. That makes the confirmed death rate just over 2 percent (58 / 2881 = .02013; .020 is 2 percent).

There are a couple of problems with this. First, it only accounts for those who have tested positive. It doesn't account for the unknown numbers of people who have no symptoms (yet), nor those whose symptoms are mild enough that they don't get tested. That would tend to suggest that the actual percentage is lower.
But there is a bigger problem: the death rate is a historical number; people who have died. It cannot account for those who will die today, tomorrow or next week, even among those who have already tested positive. Nor does it account for those who died before they could be tested, although the 79 number will account for some of those.

TLDR: The confirmed death rate is useless except as historical data compiled after the disease has run its course and subsided. As long as it is still spreading, the confirmed death rate is a dangerously misleading number.
 
We had better be paying attention to the worst-case scenarios and taking steps to ensure they don't become reality. The high percentages we are seeing are just what could theoretically happen. But the low percentages we see posted here and there are irrelevant and misleading. For example, at the moment in Alabama there are 2,881 confirmed cases, 79 reported deaths of which 58 have been confirmed to be caused by the coronavirus. Let's use the confirmed number, 58. That makes the confirmed death rate just over 2 percent (58 / 2881 = .02013; .020 is 2 percent).

There are a couple of problems with this. First, it only accounts for those who have tested positive. It doesn't account for the unknown numbers of people who have no symptoms (yet), nor those whose symptoms are mild enough that they don't get tested. That would tend to suggest that the actual percentage is lower.
But there is a bigger problem: the death rate is a historical number; people who have died. It cannot account for those who will die today, tomorrow or next week, even among those who have already tested positive. Nor does it account for those who died before they could be tested, although the 79 number will account for some of those.

TLDR: The confirmed death rate is useless except as historical data compiled after the disease has run its course and subsided. As long as it is still spreading, the confirmed death rate is a dangerously misleading number.


I wholeheartedly AGREE!! Putting all the political BULLSHIT!! aside I could not agree more. My wife is a registered nurse and she gets email several times a day with updates. This pandemic is NOT about the mortality rate as much as it is about the INFECTION RATE AND THE ABILITY OF HOSPITALS TO HANDLE THE INFLUX OF PATIENTS!! We have NOT seen the peak yet and by the time this is over........in a YEAR OR SO....... we will look back and say "WOW WERE WE EVER WRONG!!"
 
All the questions you want to ask Trump’s coronavirus task force that Mark Levin is asking NOW

https://thenationalsentinel.com/202...rk-levin-is-asking-now/?utm_source=whatfinger
Yep, another article pushing "herd immunity" (you know, like the one you posted one page back), this time with an extra helping of stupidity from Mark Levin. I actually listen to Mark Levin sometimes, and I think he's a smart guy. But he is putting politics ahead of logic, exactly as I was talking about in my previous reply (post 674). Mark is pretending that there is no point in avoiding contact now because it just means you will be infected later.
Well, I have two questions for Mark Levin. One: are you really trying to tell us (as so many are) that since most of us will have it at some point, it is advantageous to get it while the hospitals are already overwhelmed?
Two: Do you really think herd immunity doesn't happen if it is spread out over a longer time period; or do you just make that claim because it is politically expedient?
 
Yep, another article pushing "herd immunity" (you know, like the one you posted one page back), this time with an extra helping of stupidity from Mark Levin. I actually listen to Mark Levin sometimes, and I think he's a smart guy. But he is putting politics ahead of logic, exactly as I was talking about in my previous reply (post 674). Mark is pretending that there is no point in avoiding contact now because it just means you will be infected later.
Well, I have two questions for Mark Levin. One: are you really trying to tell us (as so many are) that since most of us will have it at some point, it is advantageous to get it while the hospitals are already overwhelmed?
Two: Do you really think herd immunity doesn't happen if it is spread out over a longer time period; or do you just make that claim because it is politically expedient?
What would you suggest we do? Should we continue to keep the country shut
down? How do you develop immunity if you're quarantined at home?

With proper protection of those most affected and the use of ppe, social
distancing and strict monitoring for the people going back to work I believe we can gradually start the country back up.

Obviously we can not start everything at once, it would have to be a gradual start
with the less affected parts of the country starting first.
 
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What would you suggest we do? Should we continue to keep the country shut
down? How do you develop immunity if you're quarantined at home?
I would suggest we do what the doctors recommend and stop listening to people whose entire career is based on politics. Right now we are just approaching the peak of the outbreak in the US, and hospitals are overwhelmed.
You develop immunity by surviving the disease when you do catch it, and the way you maximize your chances of surviving it is to postpone it until the medical establishment has a chance to catch up.

With proper protection of those most affected and the use of ppe, social
distancing and strict monitoring for the people going back to work I believe we can gradually start the country back up.

Exactly. But we're not there yet. There aren't even enough ppe supplies for the medical professionals on the front lines, and the outbreak hasn't begun to subside in the hardest hit areas. In some areas it has hardly even begun. You start getting back to work in areas the main wave has already passed through. Not in areas where nobody has any immunity because none have recovered from it.

We don't even have enough testing kits for everyone who is known to have been exposed or is showing symptoms.
 
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